Iggy, your legacy lives on. Heading to SFO from your hometown are two masters teams, a team of masters women, a team of elite men and a team of elite women. Thanks for blazing the path!
Iggy, your legacy lives on. Heading to SFO from your hometown are two masters teams, a team of masters women, a team of elite men and a team of elite women. Thanks for blazing the path!
Thanks. Though I am not dressed to race, I will be with you in spirit.
Great to see you posting again Charlie. I'm with you... NOT an XC Guy. Got lucky twice. Cinncy Snow Year? 15th. One spot behind the Great Northwest Tony. Closest ever in any race to him. I recall going out slow and loving the snow. Bronze at Winter Nats a few years ago in Tallahassee. Hurt like hell to go up the last mogle hills to overtake 4th for 3rd.
Nowadays... my M62.5 body turns to a 2x4 Pine Board for 2-3 days after any race or worthy workout. Case in Point... managed a high 5:19 street mile on a cold Sunday last weekend; and it destroyed me.
Glad I'm not at THE Superbowl Of Masters Racing Golden Gate (ran like sh*t there once).
We arrived in SF mid afternoon yesterday and checked out the course. It looks like about 75% hardpack and 25% grass, so Nike VF Next % for me. Everyone in the age group who has finished ahead of me the last 3 nationals was wearing Next%s when I was wearing XC shoes. Lesson learned. The hardest rain predicted tomorrow is during our race. I”ll report on my shoe choice post-race.
We arrived in SF mid afternoon yesterday and checked out the course. It looks like about 75% hardpack and 25% grass, so Nike VF Next % for me. Everyone in the age group who has finished ahead of me the last 3 nationals was wearing Next%s when I was wearing XC shoes. Lesson learned. The hardest rain predicted tomorrow is during our race. I”ll report on my shoe choice post-race.
Sounds good. I had my best race in flats under muddy conditions, and that was before the shoes. Best wishes.
I survived and had an OK race, not a bad race, not a great race. I was 9th in the age group and I had seeded myself as 10th based on who entered. My Toads 70+ team won going 2,3,9. It was the wettest, windiest, muddiest race I have done. I fell once at about 1.5mi on a steep downhill going too fast. I saw 5 guys in front of me fall at various points in the race. I ran in my Nike VK Next% 2s, which I built up “soft spikes” on with Shoe Goo, which felt perfect for the conditions. About 2 minutes after we started a huge Cypress near the start line blew down and nearly hit some canopies. The park rangers then declared the tree areas too dangerous and the remaining races were delayed and ended up being run as multiple loops around the polo field. It was true XC weather and these races will be talked about for a long time for both how good and how bad they were.
OG II, sounds like a tough race, indeed! Congrats on your good performance!
Igy, read about your race and watched video with great interest. Amazing that you recall so many details!
Sonogno, your story is both shocking and inspiring. You are a very courageous man!
Robert E. Lee, no reason for sorrows for not reaching 2000 miles. It is a great volume anyway! At least for me it is absolutely unreachable, am logging some 850-900 (Apr-Oct) in running and some 750-800 in cross-fit from Nov thru Mar (mostly skiing).
BigMango, what a great volume! You should be flying the next season!
My week was similar to the previous one. A mix of elliptical, treadmill and skiing. No chance to run outdoors, show and ice everywhere. Also, I intentionally focus on cross training to let my body heal the injuries itself.
Mon: 0:54 elliptical. About 25 min at LT and sub-LT effort
Tue: 0:55 elliptical. A 33 min tempo at LT effort
Wed: mix of a 0:40 treadmill (0:20 @ LT pace) and 0:30 elliptical. 1:10 subtotal
Thu: 0:50 elliptical, easy
Fri: mix of a 0:25 treadmill (0:10 @ LT pace) and 0:30 elliptical. 0:55 subtotal
Greetings, fellow 50+ers! The first full week of meteorological winter did not disappoint with a variety of challenging weather. It negatively affected my weekly mileage as my scheduled Wednesday run was scuttled by the wx conditions. So my week’s volume took a dip to 15.3 actual running miles. The good news is the extra day off was beneficial to my recovery. Hopefully this week will see a return to normal, though I will have to work around one routine medical appointment and through a likely b2b situation. Hoping for the best!
Sun: off
Mon: 54’ CR w/ utility pole fartlek (5 x 2 on/off); body wt ex + med ball routine
congrats! sounds like really difficult conditions.
I was relaxing for the most part this week leading up to last race of the year, an 8k I was using entirely to finish up a club race series. In keeping with my history of never learning from mistakes, I ran it despite chilly damp conditions and calf tightness in warmup.......resulting in calf strain mid-race. Backed off the rest of the way and finished in 36:12.
Almost every time I've run a race just to finish a series, or qualify for regional rankings, or because I paid the entry fee, or...........I end up regretting it. Should probably fire myself as coach.
Anyway, with luck a few easy weeks with lots of cross-training will get me back to well enough to start training for boston marathon 2023.
Season ticket holder for an NHL team. Another game today at 5pm
i go just to get out. Last game there was a huge fight in the section to my left. I heard one of the combatants had the tip of his finger bitten off. I’ve noticed that the spectator sport fans for the most part are not athletic. Most of them it looks to me anyways, haven’t an athletic bone in their bodies but they get wrapped up in this identifying with a team so much so ( and fueled with alcohol) it gets insane. I don’t wear my team gear anymore EXCEPT when away from the arena. I do like the excitement and it passes the time. Contrast that to spectators in our sport. I attended the NCAA XC championship for many years at Terre Haute and at the gun, the spectators turn about and run across the field to the first mile!! If spectator sport fans had to do that at these games I go to now, you’d have to have thousands of fibulators on hand.
The Masters Men's 60+ heat of the 2022 USATF Club Nationals XC Championships. The overall winner of this ~8K race was Nat Larson of the Greater Springfield H...
Iggy, your legacy lives on. Heading to SFO from your hometown are two masters teams, a team of masters women, a team of elite men and a team of elite women. Thanks for blazing the path!
Congratulations to Gretchen and John for the leadership of the Boise Betties and Billies. Fielding multiple teams teams in the masters division. That is a feat for our town, and solid performances at that. Notable Idaho performers Joshua McAdams 2nd M40-44 for the Billies and my good friend Patti Bellan 3rd W55-59 for the Aggies. Idaho Afoot fielded a solid team in the Women’s Open division.
Igy , Nice 2006 GGXC ! I am gunning for your KING of the DOWN ARROW TITLE on the old fart thread .
Recovery, Base, Speed, Race
Decent shape
Wayne M67 sprinter who posts workouts on FB challenged sub 5 1600 via 8x200 with 30 minutes to finish. Just could not resist 4:52 with 3 minutes walk/rest.
I was tempted to run Club XC but the truth is I am just not good enough to be competitive at the nat level and racing longer than a mile is not my cup of tea.
Goals
Extending my sub 6 for the mile streak, probably at Hayward Classic 2023
A 400 faster in seconds than my age in years 66 NFW but if I can get under 68 then hold on for 2 years...
Uno mas 3000 maybe
Onward!
Good to hear you are going and in shape. Could not do the sub 1600m challenge if I had 8 days. I don't think I can run a 37 sec 200m, although I can do 16 at 40-41 with 200m jog!
Gradually working back after post-Utah break. Probably do the 12k Siuslaw Dunes trail race in March, just for fun/motivation to get some longer runs in. Then aim for Hayward Classic - 3000m, I don't think a mile is long enough for me to catch up with you! I can't remember the last time I run under 6:00, but I did do 6:06 solo on road about a week before Utah.
I find I moved up another place in the standings as I sit here this morning in a soft chair with a hot cup of coffee. That's way better than trying to grind by some other tough old guy running in front of you. I don't fault any of the guys who got DQ'd for cutting the course. Conditions were pretty chaotic and there was a point where you could have cut up onto the Polo Field rather than running a long trail section parallel and outside it before turning back onto the field. I'm sure a number of runners were confused and hypothermic or borderline hypothermic by the end of the race.
Weird seeing all these top dogs from 20 years ago getting long in the tooth but still running very well.
Since the "8K" course for 60+ was essentially a sloppy road run, I thought it would be interesting to calibrate to equivalent time for a faster 10K road course. For this I used the recent performances of "Mr Consistency" Nat Larson (16:35/34:22) as well as results of some members of my local club to calibrate the results using 1.17x as the factor to get an equivalent for 10k on relatively fast road in good conditions. Cheers to the tough competitors who dealt with the conditions!
I will note that based on my conversion, Jacob Nur at age 67 converts to just under 35 minutes for 10K, which puts him at 101% for WMA age grading, i.e. Derek Turnbull/Alistair Walker territory.
Weird seeing all these top dogs from 20 years ago getting long in the tooth but still running very well.
Since the "8K" course for 60+ was essentially a sloppy road run, I thought it would be interesting to calibrate to equivalent time for a faster 10K road course. For this I used the recent performances of "Mr Consistency" Nat Larson (16:35/34:22) as well as results of some members of my local club to calibrate the results using 1.17x as the factor to get an equivalent for 10k on relatively fast road in good conditions. Cheers to the tough competitors who dealt with the conditions!
I was there on Saturday. M 60+ ran the full course. It was Not a sloppy 8K road race. It was real XC under some pretty gnarly conditions. There are pictures to show people on the course, and Strava routes. It was about 1/3 on the horse track, 1/3 grass, 1/3 trail (a few feet wide to maybe 10-12 mostly packed gravel or rocky gravel). No shoes worked perfectly. If you had spikes they clattered and skittered on the horse track (and the rockier parts of the trail); those in road flats were slipping and sliding on the grass parts--like almost skiing or surfing down; and spikeless xc shoes (which I wore) were in between but you lost ground to those in supershoes on the track part, and then again to those wearing spikes on the grassy stretches. I think an aggressive trail shoe or something with hard rubber spikes would probably be the best. If I did again I would have left the pin spikes (3/8 but recessed insert) in my shoes.
(note that Jacob ran 17:00 for 5K on the roads the other week, 100% age grade).