YALE

slower than Harvard

Check the performance listings for the season so far.

http://www.tfrrs.org/lists/618.html

Also, today is the annual Harvard-Yale-Princeton trimeet. Check the list tomorrow for updates

A friend of mine emailed the coach...he said a 4:30 mile would let my friend train with the team. I would imagine if you want help with admissions, you would need to run several seconds faster. Yale has made several public statements lately that they want to move away from giving extra support to athletes in the admissions pool. If you want standards, try emailing the Yale coach.

Someone with more direct knowledge should takeover from here.

the ivies are stepping up their game in terms of distance recruits. if you're a senior this year it's probably way too late to get admissions support. most schools have that doled out for EA kids.

so is yale getting any runners is or its all academic? a teammate of mine is looking there but doesnt know the times needed to get support

Crimson wrote:

slower than Harvard

THIS

college xc wrote:

so is yale getting any runners is or its all academic? a teammate of mine is looking there but doesnt know the times needed to get support

from what the coach told me, he has several recruits sub-4:15 and a few sub-1:53 guys. i don\'t know about anything else really. hope that helps.

after a couple of tough years, the program is definitely on an upswing. though the team was beaten (badly) by princeton and harvard today, i think there are a number of positive performances to take from the distance side.

your friend may be able to walk on as a 4:30 type, and coach ireland has proven that he is able to take that caliber of runner and turn them into a stud (see: lucas meyer). he is not given much to work with by the athletic department (and administration), as referenced by the poster above.

applied wrote:

the ivies are stepping up their game in terms of distance recruits. if you're a senior this year it's probably way too late to get admissions support. most schools have that doled out for EA kids.

Oh my god give me a break. They have been saying that for +25 years. With the exception of a few notables (Lesko, ...?) Yale has not done anything. The same goes for the Heptagonals/Ivies/Whatever.

Its back to the "Gentlemens' Pastime" approach.

My opinion - Good program but not great

Shorter went to Yale

He doesn't anymore.

poewoepejdnmd wrote:

He doesn't anymore.

No shit, he's in his 60s

ASphyncter Says what? wrote:

applied wrote:

the ivies are stepping up their game in terms of distance recruits. if you're a senior this year it's probably way too late to get admissions support. most schools have that doled out for EA kids.

Oh my god give me a break. They have been saying that for +25 years. With the exception of a few notables (Lesko, ...?) Yale has not done anything. The same goes for the Heptagonals/Ivies/Whatever.

Its back to the "Gentlemens' Pastime" approach.

Sphyncter,

Not so fast with the ivy ctiticism. Agreed, the ivies do no tend to be top level DI competition in XC and T&F. How can they be when they DO ONT GIVE ATHLETIC SCHOLARSHIPS and their ACADEMIC ADMISSIONS STANDARDS limit their potential audience to the top 1%, or less of the high school student population. So they start with a very significant handicap compared to the typical Di programs.

That being said, Princeton came in 12th IN THE COUNTRY in NCAA XC this year. They are also ranked the NUMBER 2 RECRUITING CLASS in XC this year, behind Oregon but ahead of every other Di school. In T%F, Cornell has a top flight program. Harvard's XC team has a ton of talent at the young end of the range, boding well for its prospects in the next couple of year.

So, beofre you blow any more crap out your asz, Sphyncter, do some analysis of the facts.

God Bless

so no one really specifically answered it, can yale get a runner in if they really want him?

If he has over ~1300 on the two part SAT, a decent GPA, they really want him and they haven't already used their spots helping other people get in then... most likely

This was the case 30yrs ago too...when they were much more competitive.

Look at school records, top 10 lists...

The admissions standards excuse is just that, an excuse.

NJ runnerr wrote:

how is yale with getting runners in? Any one know what the times usually run are?

Threads like this confuse me. Since you have questions about a specific program, why not just fill out the Yale recruiting questionnaire, give it a couple of weeks, and then email or call the coach? My kid was recruited by several Ivy schools this year and, while the coaches couldn't give him a 100% guarantee of admission, they all told him they'd go to bat for him and they were very up front with what sort of gpa and sat scores they thought he would need. Don't be shy - just contact the program and I'm sure the coach can answer your questions.

desert storm wrote:

Threads like this confuse me. Since you have questions about a specific program, why not just fill out the Yale recruiting questionnaire, give it a couple of weeks, and then email or call the coach? My kid was recruited by several Ivy schools this year and, while the coaches couldn't give him a 100% guarantee of admission, they all told him they'd go to bat for him and they were very up front with what sort of gpa and sat scores they thought he would need. Don't be shy - just contact the program and I'm sure the coach can answer your questions.

Exactly. Fill out the questionnaire and then send a short email to Coach Ireland (assuming you're a guy) with your PR's, training volumes, GPA, test scores, and class rank.

But to broadly answer the question - runners getting into Yale have a pretty small needle to thread. Yale track/XC has less than half of the supported admissions slots of Harvard and Princeton, and anecdotally, has higher academic standards for those spots than H&P. And the other Ivies, while still very elite institutions, have slightly different standards than HYP.