Andrew Bumbalough

Wait until Bumbalough gets a couple of years of good mileage under his belt. Going from 60-70 up to some real mileage will pay huge benefits. Then we'll see who the "bigger talent" is. Bumbalough would have run about 13:20 this past spring if he hadn't gotten mono. 13:20 on 65 mpw is a pretty big talent.

He looks very fit. Does anyone know how fast he closed that last 1k?

Teg has never struck me as having a lot of "warmth" to his personality.

You might be right. I worded that poorly. I really meant Teg has clearly been, at this point, more of an elite competitor (Bumbi is still developing as a young runner well short of his prime, if all goes well).

I wouldn't think either one is in shape to go 12:56 at this point.

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Wait until Bumbalough gets a couple of years of good mileage under his belt. Going from 60-70 up to some real mileage will pay huge benefits. Then we'll see who the "bigger talent" is. Bumbalough would have run about 13:20 this past spring if he hadn't gotten mono. 13:20 on 65 mpw is a pretty big talent.

The Schumacher group seems like a perfect fit for Bumbalough. Monster talent, but like Tegenkamp, couldn't stay healthy in college. Bumbalough's issue was that he can race so far above his fitness the college racing schedule would really beat him down. Now that he can train full time, who knows how fast he'll run. Solinsky is still the big dog of the group but glad to see Bumbalough's jumped right in there with Nelson, Teg, Bairu, and Jager. Big things in store. Gotta think if he can train well for the next month he may knock out the WC qualifier and record a big PR; then onto WXC.

Yeah this was especially apparent in contrast to Bumbalough, who seemed to be riding that high.

Anyone know how the group meshes on a personality level? I know the initial core group from Wisco has been together a long time, so how has been it going sticking Bumbalough in there?

Buma been a stud for years man, Running 3:56 anchor legs at NCAA etc. He was MIA for a while though. He'll been down to 13:10 this year

That's what I said, too, but just as a point of reference, Galen Rupp's PR is 13:07 and Brent Vaughn's is 13:18. So 13:10 is a big statement. They're both more distance-oriented than Bumbi though, I think. It's not surprising Vaughn crushed Teg and Bumbi, since he does have a 1:02 half marathon PR, but I think Teg and Bumbi both would beat him at anything 5k and shorter.

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That's what I said, too, but just as a point of reference, Galen Rupp's PR is 13:07 and Brent Vaughn's is 13:18. So 13:10 is a big statement. They're both more distance-oriented than Bumbi though, I think. It's not surprising Vaughn crushed Teg and Bumbi, since he does have a 1:02 half marathon PR, but I think Teg and Bumbi both would beat him at anything 5k and shorter.

Bumbalough's running the 5k in Australia in a few weeks, we'll see what he can throw down. I'm guessing under the standard but no faster than 13:15.

Also, typically the guy's a gamer that has made nice progressions each year.

2006-2009 5k

14:10-13:55-13:45-13:30; 2010 mono but still managed 3rd at NCAAs and USAs

I'm expecting another 15 second jump this year if he can stay healthy.

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It's not surprising Vaughn crushed Teg and Bumbi, since he does have a 1:02 half marathon PR, but I think Teg and Bumbi both would beat him at anything 5k and shorter.

You would have called Vaughn smoking them beforehand?

haha. No. You're right.

Bumbi's a stud.

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As a side note, did anyone else think Teg seemed like sort of a poor sport? No props for his young teammate at all, just a comment about how he had clearly lost a lot last year, as shown by the race. I'm sure he has, and he's obviously a bigger talent than Bumbalough, but I thought he should have been a little more gracious and supportive.

You have to be kidding, this is not "little league"; this is Teg's career and not too many years left. Everyone of these younger guys are a threat to his future! He was cordial, etc. but he is not going to go out of his way (or should he) to build up one of his teammates or competitors. I have coached athletes trying to make national teams and he should of been a little disappointed that he was not able to at least take 2nd place. Bumbi ran well and needs to lead his own cheering section, not Teg!!!

Whoa! Bumbi ended up closer to Vaughn than Teg was to Bumbi. Now THAT I did not expect when the camera cut away from the chase pack with less than 1k to go. Anyone know what he closed in?

Nah, I disagree. Teg should want to beat Bumbi, of course, and should be competitive and want to win and be disappointed when he didn't, but he didn't give the dude any props at all. And when you're teammates, you just need to do shit like that. It's good for morale, and thus training and whatnot.

Either way, I have to say I enjoyed watching Bumbi smoke Teg after receiving NO prerace attention and Teg never mentioning anything about how, oh, by the way, I know I'm getting hyped for this race, but my training partner Bumbi is an effing badass.

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Actually, Teg did mention in an interview how he views Bumbi as a threat. Can't remember where I read it... maybe a recent Brief Chat?

Also, you can't compare Bumbi to Rupp or Vaughn. I can also say that Broe ran 13:11, and he is as talented as him... or Goucher ran 13:10 right after college... or Ian Dobson of all people ran like 13:16 IN COLLEGE, and Bumbi is better then that... BUT, what gives Bumbi an EXCELLENT shot at 13:10 or under is not the talent level... its the coaching, training partners and MENTALITY that 13:10 just isn't that big a deal. THAT is what is huge. Bumbi won't be afraid of 13:00. He won't get there this year, but you don't train with 2 sub 13:00 guys, with another a few hours from you, and put limits on yourself. I think people discount that way too much.

I have maintained for 10 years that the uber-talented in this country have the physical tools to be 12:50-12:59 guys... but the main thing holding them back was proper training and the mindset that it was doable. I think both issues have been tackled out of Jerry's group.

not too concerned about that. vaughn likely shut it down to some extent knowning he had it in the bag. by contrast, anyone not leading the race still has some incentive to keep the gas on, whereas the leader only has incentive to do enought to win. regardless, hell of a run by bumbi, I am very impressed.

interesting.... wrote:Whoa! Bumbi ended up closer to Vaughn than Teg was to Bumbi. Now THAT I did not expect when the camera cut away from the chase pack with less than 1k to go. Anyone know what he closed in?