From this morning's treadmill session: Who won the race? and for the advanced crowd, who was the race announcer for the American video feed? Remember this was 1988.
More trivia to follow.
From this morning's treadmill session: Who won the race? and for the advanced crowd, who was the race announcer for the American video feed? Remember this was 1988.
More trivia to follow.
Bordin/Frank Shorter
gasser wrote:
From this morning's treadmill session: Who won the race? and for the advanced crowd, who was the race announcer for the American video feed? Remember this was 1988.
More trivia to follow.
You don't specify men or women's, so I'll add that Rosa Mota won the women's. As said above, Shorter was one of the announcers, and I would guess that Charlie Jones was the "play by play" guy.
Indeed I meant the men's race, no disrespect to Mota. The gold went to Bordin who fought off Saleh's attack at 35K after being dropped. Shorter may have been the second announcer so I'll give partial credit for that one, but Jerry freaking Lawson was the answer I was looking for. Jerry freaking Lawson. To think that almost 25yrs ago that guy was still yammering away with his strange analogies and running descriptors.
Follow-up question: (Again in the men's race), who won the silver, and why was his nationality notable?
No way. I don't think that you mean JERRY LAWSON. Maybe Larry Rawson.
Oh shit, you're right. Larry Rawson. I flunk my own trivia. I was as intrigued with the damn race as I was distracted that Rawson had found a time warp to Seoul circa 1988. Distracted enough to not realize the other announcer was likely Shorter.
race yourself fit wrote:
No way. I don't think that you mean JERRY LAWSON. Maybe Larry Rawson.
Jerry Lawson? Are you sure you don't mean Larry Rawson? (I don't remember Rawson as one of the commentators for that race, though. I remember Shorter and, I think, Charlie Jones. I do seem to remember Rawson at the '88 trials, however. Perhaps he was on the course at the Games that year as well.)
I remember Shorter's commentary very well. "They're starting to drop Bordin! They're starting to drop Bordin!" And then, a while later, "Bordin is coming back! I KNEW this was still a race!" Very exciting, dramatic action over those last few miles.
Douglas Wakiihuri, the world champion, got the silver over Salah. I suppose the nationality was notable because it was, I believe, the first Olympic maration medal for Kenya.
Correct sir. Wakiihuri was the silver medalist - notable because it was the first Olympic marathon medal for Kenya. Also notable I thought, because Wakiihuri lived and trained in Japan, a la Wanjiru.
Follow up question: Who was the first American to the line, what was his place?
Completely off topic, but I was looking at the results for the '88 marathon and noticed that Takeyuki Nakayama (4th place) lost bronze by 6 seconds. Ouch! I then checked the '92 results and saw he lost bronze by 2 seconds!
I feel bad for Mr. Nakayama. 4th place in back to back Olympics.
I'm fairly confident that the first American was Pete Pfitzinger. Without looking it up, I'd guess that he was about fourteenth place.
Chris Wasnetsky wrote:
Completely off topic, but I was looking at the results for the '88 marathon and noticed that Takeyuki Nakayama (4th place) lost bronze by 6 seconds. Ouch! I then checked the '92 results and saw he lost bronze by 2 seconds!
I feel bad for Mr. Nakayama. 4th place in back to back Olympics.
The '88 race for bronze probably wasn't as close as the times might suggest. Salah just jogged in after his late-race surge failed to break Bordin and Wakiihuri, and was just checking over his shoulder toward the end to make sure that he kept the bronze. But I hadn't realized that Nakayama missed a medal again by an even smaller margin four years later. Too bad. He was a terrific runner.
Not off topic, I did not know that. Didn't the GBR's Jon Brown put up similar results at the Games? I can say from observation that Nakayama's six seconds in '88 were a distant six. He was dropped at 35K and only gained ground with Saleh's late collapse. Perhaps if there had been another mile to run. He was a graceful looking runner though.
Correct again, although sestriere gets credit for the first question as well. Pfitz was the lead American, crossing in 14th in 2:14.xx. So your guess of the results in an old-ass race was dead on. In the interview Pete has this blank stare and stammers, "It was really hot out there. Hotter than L.A." He looked completely fried. Eyestone was further back moving slowly through his stadium lap. Ed had a second go of it in Barcelona I believe.
Final follow up question: De Castella was not the lead Aussie in the race, at least not at the finish. Where did Deek finish and which of his countrymen beat him to the line?
Good call on Brown.
http://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/br/jon-brown-2.html
Missed bronze by 7 seconds in 2000 and 15 seconds in 2004. 4th place each year.
I think Deek finished about seventh or eighth. (I seem to remember that Ikangaa finished just ahead of him.) I would guess that the Aussie ahead of Deek was Steve Moneghetti, who had been edged for the bronze by Bordin at the previous year's world championships in Rome.
Avocado's Number wrote:
I remember Shorter's commentary very well. "They're starting to drop Bordin! They're starting to drop Bordin!" And then, a while later, "Bordin is coming back! I KNEW this was still a race!" Very exciting, dramatic action over those last few miles.
I was looking of my VHS tape just last week to replay Frank. About the same time of these comments he said Bordin couldn't came back, that in other marathons maybe, but not the Olympic marathon. HA!
Correct again sir! Good Lord, it's like you're a g'damned mind reader or something. Moneghetti rolls in for fifth, Spedding of GBR claims sixth. Deek runs into the stadium in 8th place trailing, ironically, his nemesis Ikangaa by a few seconds. Deek closes the gap and challenges at about 80m to go and Ikangaa runs away for 7th. Funny really seeing those two dueling at 26mi since one outweighs the other by at least 40lbs. Even more ironic, the next race on my tape is Rome so it's as if you are answering tomorrow's trivia in advance. Well done everyone including Avocado who is significantly overqualified for this type of contest.
Avocado's Number wrote:
I think Deek finished about seventh or eighth. (I seem to remember that Ikangaa finished just ahead of him.) I would guess that the Aussie ahead of Deek was Steve Moneghetti, who had been edged for the bronze by Bordin at the previous year's world championships in Rome.
gasser wrote:
Well done everyone including Avocado who is significantly overqualified for this type of contest.
:)