Hi,I was wondering if anyone had any information about Stony Brook University's XC and track team. Stuff like what's the coach like,what type of mileage they run, where they train, the funding and scholarship situation there. Any anything i might have left out. Any info would be greatly appreciated. All for the men's team thanks.
Long Island is not a good place to train. The only reason the girls team is any good is the conection with NZ. The coach has not a clue. Better off looking for a new school.
And the guys team sucks!
Bump. Thanks for that,does anyone else have any info?
no that is pretty much it. Coach is clueless. Then he figured out how to recruit foreigners.
That is about it.
^ Posts by a bitter alumnus who didn't live up to his potential and blames it on the coach. The coach got 3rd at Boston in '91, he knows his stuff. He recruits foreigners because nobody has ever heard of SBU and so the top runners never go there, even the local ones from NY, they all get recruited by Oregon, Stanford etc.
You will run 60-90mpw depending on what type of runner you are and what events you do (assuming you are distance, the assistant coach handles sprints/field events and I don't really know much about what training they did).
As for training surfaces, you'll mostly be on roads. There are some trails nearby but they aren't very expansive and most of the kids there prefer to do their runs on the road anyway for some reason.
as an opponent of the team atleast once a year i can say that the coaches are nice guys and will really help you with the admissions process if you show interest in the school. i think the location is nice even though im not a huge fan of people from the island. i also know that the head coach was a very good runner himself in his day so he cant be an idiot as people have said before.
Why people not crucify this program like they do Texas A & M? Hmmmmm.
You can be a very good runner and an idiot.
Long Island is not the place to train. Roads stink, and there are no trails to be found. There are some decent parks like Sunken Meadow, but it would be hard to put in a lot of miles there due to distance from the school. Long Island is over populated in most areas, and you will most likely be training in residential neighborhoods and sidewalks.
It's hard to believe the coach doesn't know what he's doing considering the progression the van dalen's have made in their stony brook careers as well as the progression of the program in general.
Just throwin this out here, the roads, especially around the university, aren't that bad. As for trails, you need to drive, and its a bit limited. However, about 15-20 minutes away is Connetquot. Not a bad place, can do 9 miles easy without repeating anything.
Coach knows his stuff (see the Van Dalen's, NCAA's, that stuff). As far as the needing foreigners thing, the fact of the matter is that Stony Brook doesn't even have a track (well they are getting a really nice one this year at least...). Without having had a track, it makes recruiting talent difficult.
zip zero nada wrote:
Just throwin this out here, the roads, especially around the university, aren't that bad. As for trails, you need to drive, and its a bit limited. However, about 15-20 minutes away is Connetquot. Not a bad place, can do 9 miles easy without repeating anything.
Coach knows his stuff (see the Van Dalen's, NCAA's, that stuff). As far as the needing foreigners thing, the fact of the matter is that Stony Brook doesn't even have a track (well they are getting a really nice one this year at least...). Without having had a track, it makes recruiting talent difficult.
One good runner does not mean he is a good coach. He can't get a guy to do crap! save yourself the time, look someplace else.
I've been to LI twice and not by choice. I was very close to Stony Brook, I can't imagine actually wanting to live there.
I've heard there are some decents parts way out but really LI sucks big time.
Go to Binghamton!!
Long Island high school distance runners (Nassau and Suffolk) have been very successful over the years. There must be decent places to run out in Suffolk county.
Can't speak about the coaching nowadays, as I was there when it was still a Division III school. Back then, there were some great places to run (on the roads), with rolling hills and not much traffic, very scenic. There were some trails, but one can assume they might have been developed into housing, etc.
SBU, having been a multi-sport DIII school --football was a club sport for my first two years there-- it will take many years to build nationwide sports cred. People outside the eastern seaboard don't really know of it.
The only pro player from SBU I can think of is major league pitcher, Joe Nathan.
In the mid 60s there was a big marijuana bust at the school. Might have been the first of its kind at a college/university. Made nationwide headlines with Walter Cronkite giving story on the nightly news.
Yes, I've been there. Great country roads behind the Univ. Plus, Vestal and Maine-Endwell RULE in high school XC!!!
I was at their sectional meet last year. M-E like swept and Vestal looked awesome (even though their competiton was weak).
come on now! wrote:
zip zero nada wrote:Just throwin this out here, the roads, especially around the university, aren't that bad. As for trails, you need to drive, and its a bit limited. However, about 15-20 minutes away is Connetquot. Not a bad place, can do 9 miles easy without repeating anything.
Coach knows his stuff (see the Van Dalen's, NCAA's, that stuff). As far as the needing foreigners thing, the fact of the matter is that Stony Brook doesn't even have a track (well they are getting a really nice one this year at least...). Without having had a track, it makes recruiting talent difficult.
One good runner does not mean he is a good coach. He can't get a guy to do crap! save yourself the time, look someplace else.
Ok, just sticking to women for the moment...
But the whole freakin women's team did great. You kinda have to in order to place well at nationals dumb ass, not just a single runner. Additionally, there is a recent grad who has been doing pretty well on the track (high 15's?). As for the men, yeah, its a work in progress, but its not nearly as bad as you make it out to be. OMG they didn't make nationals. Like oh, 95% of D1 teams. So they aren't any good?
Are you really that much of an asshole?
No Chance Kid wrote:
Long Island is not the place to train. Roads stink, and there are no trails to be found. There are some decent parks like Sunken Meadow, but it would be hard to put in a lot of miles there due to distance from the school. Long Island is over populated in most areas, and you will most likely be training in residential neighborhoods and sidewalks.
long island is not overpopulated in the place where SBU is. Suffolk isn't exactly overpopulated. yes, one might prefer there to be less people, but it's not exactly a major metropolitan area