Given that most of our products come from China, wouldn't they have us by the balls if war broke out?
Given that most of our products come from China, wouldn't they have us by the balls if war broke out?
US lost the war of White Imperialism in Asia in 1975. Are you looking to get your ass whipped again ?
China has one thing that is not made elsewhere - rare earths. And those can be mined elsewhere with advanced notice.
No bluewater navy
No tested army
No combat experience, unless you call getting their asses kicked in Vietnam in 1978 "experience".
20yrs ago CNN went on about the Republican Guard, and how the invasion of Iraq would be a blood bath similar to the battle for the Pacific. It was over in 61hrs. Something similar would happen w/ the PLA. They would scatter after first contact.
The history of China is to pay off hostile neighbors, who eventually tire of bribes, and invade.
The US can't win a war since it won't fight man to man. The US lost Asia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine. The US only has water boats and sails around on cruises. Real world powers have land, valleys, rivers, cities. The can't even control the border with Mexico. What a bunch of pussies. Try messing with Asian again and Asia will whip America's ass again !
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As the US government has to borrow 41 cents from other countries, (mainly China and the oil producing countries) out of every dollar is spends right now - it would be ill-advisable for the US to engage itself in yet another conflict - even against such an adversity as the Dominican Republic.
The US has already been at war with the people of both Iraq and Afghanistan for nearly ten years, without any obvious benefit to the economy of the US or the safety of its citizens.
If fact, viewing the activities of such arms of the US government such as the TSA - Americans are less safe in 2011 than they’ve ever been.
Alf Shrubb wrote:
The US has already been at war with the people of both Iraq and Afghanistan for nearly ten years, without any obvious benefit to the economy of the US or the safety of its citizens.
Who cares about citizens? They are need only to vote for one of 2 puppets. Real profit goes to drug cartels (Afghanistan opium) and to weapon industry. They pay for TV programs, and we all known since ages that average American doesn't have opinions, you guys just repeat what TV set told you. Well, to be honest, same goes for average European.
If it came down to Army vs. army in a non-nuclear conflict, I don't think the US or Chine would have a distinct advantage. We have a vastly superior navy and air force, but their ground forces could easily double or triple the size of our military, so we would have our hands full.
China's biggest issue would be food- they import a LOT of food, and would have a hard time doing so when at war. Huge military needs lots of food- china would likely invade continental US at some point, which would be a disaster for them.
If there is such a war (it might even at a low level right now) it will be fought with the computer virus. Wait till the power goes out on the entire Eastern seaboard, GPS/satellite communication links go down etc etc etc. The Chinese are just as vulnerable to this as the US.
Both nations are too economically linked to ever go to war, and the leaders of both nations know it would be disastrous for both of us in a non-nuclear conflict. China doesn't have the capability to invade the US, so the war would be fought in Asia.
However, China continues to build up it's military capability. It obviously had big plans for the future of it's military might. What I see in the future is more of these proxy conflicts around the world, in which China supports some shady country (Sudan, Iran), the USA says what the hell are you doing, and we carry out battles in that manner. It will be a situation similar to the Cold War, when the USA indirectly conflicted with Russia in Cuba, the Middle East, etc.
FoghornLonghorn wrote:
If there is such a war (it might even at a low level right now) it will be fought with the computer virus. Wait till the power goes out on the entire Eastern seaboard, GPS/satellite communication links go down etc etc etc. The Chinese are just as vulnerable to this as the US.
Check out this article on the cyber-war with Iran. It is so cool that we can do this stuff:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/world/middleeast/16stuxnet.htmlfuture soldier wrote:
Given that most of our products come from China, wouldn't they have us by the balls if war broke out?
Most of our products are NOT created by China.
The US is still the largest manufacturing country in the world. The US still has the largest economy in the world by far.
Most of our worthless junk that is sold in Wal-Mart comes from China. Very few if anything of true value is imported from China.
Stop listening to the Fox News BS.
Having said all that our debt is worrisome. But China will keep loaning us money because they realize that without America they are a third world country who has a hard time supporting its own population.
If America and China go to war America wins. China is way too dependent on America buying its cheap junk. America can produce everything China makes without too much difficulty just a little more expensive. China cannot produce the things America makes and exports to them.
In this day and age Air power is way more important than land power. America has way to much air superiority over China right now for any war to be to close. America's biggest problem is its people. The vast majority of America would never accept rationing at the levels of WWII and thus it would make fighting in major war difficult.
However, if certain trends continue, a lot of this will change in the next decade or so and China might not need the US as much.
us has no balls to fight a ground war. they use drones, helos, and guided missiles they are so afraid to fight. no wonder the locals in afghnistan and iraq have won. asia already defeated the us and europe on the battlefields of asia in combat. it would be suicide for us imperialists to go back to roosevelt's white kkk america and attack asia again like they did before.
China has no tested army, and all of their equipment is absolute junk. They use garbage weapons and aircrafts. Sure, they have numbers, but the US is so far ahead in technology that it would be impossible to overcome. Idiots will tell you that China or South Korea or someone has nukes, but let me tell you this. The nuclear bomb is an outdated weapon. The US has developed technology that could disable a nuke in the air. Face it. The bomb was built in the 40s. It's an outdated weapon.
The US would win handily.
Why would the US waste lives of American soldiers if we don't have to? If we can take out the human cockroaches (Taliban) by using drones, we should continue to do so indefinitely. Just think of our Raptor and Predator drones as giant flying cans of bug spray that we can use to rid the world of filthy pig vermin.
In the event of a war with China, wouldn't we just stop paying back our debts to them? I can see that being a motive if times/our leadership get bad enough.
The US has no tested military and can't win a ground war. China would blast the US like it did in Korea.
China owns Walmart, Home Depot, Target, Nike and the big retailers through shadow shoguns. The US can't do shit else the economy is ruined. Plus all the fat bods and trailer park trash like Nick Symmonds' family would have to shop up at the malls and that would ruin white society ;=}