What times do Ivy recruits run?

Top guys can be very fast. Sub 15:10, sub 9, sub 4:10, sub 1:53.

If he were a top guy, do you think he would ask?

They'll recruit slower than that too, I have no idea what typical numbers are but it may also depend on the school.

4:20, 9:20 are typical. The faster you are the easier for a coach to get you in. There are SAT minimums however. The more intelligent you are the slower you and run and probably hoop on the team. ex. 4:30-9:40

Coaches want kids with ambition. Is that you?

well looking at my January issue of Track&Field News, it has a list of Ivy League recruit times. here are some

Brown: 1:50.11

Columbia: 8:56

Cornell: 9:03, 1:52.7

dartmouth: 9:08, 1:51.8

Harvard: 8:58, 9:01, 9:02

Penn: 4:10

princeton: 9:01, 9:09, 9:11

yale: 9:14, 9:06

there might be more but these were the mid/distance runners who were listed...

Those are top times, not bottom times. Think about it.

I think Brown has rather low standards. They sent me stuff before I had run anything remotely good (16+ 5k).

D I

100M

10.5 Tier 1

10.8 Tier 1 walkon

10.8 Tier 2

11.0 Tier 2 walkon

200M

21.25

21.5

21.8

22.7

400M

47.5

48.5

48.5

51.0

800M

1:52

1:54

1:55

1:58

1500M

3:55

4:00

4:05

4:10

1600M

4:15

4:20

4:25

4:30

3000M Steeplechase

9:34

9:40

9:40

9:50

3200M

9:10

9:30

9:30

9:45

D II

100M

10.9

11.3

11.1

11.3

200M

22.00

24.0

23.0

24.0

400M

49.0

52.0

52.0

54.0

800M

1:57

2:02

2:00

2:08

1500M

4:05

4:30

4:15

4:45

1600M

4:30

4:45

4:45

5:00

3000M Steeplechase

9:45

10:30

10:20

11:00

3200M

9:30

9:45

9:50

10:15

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Unsure wrote:

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General Guideline wrote:

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Unsure wrote:

Nice copy-paste

What he meant to say was, that was a huge waste of space. You should apologize to Al Gore immediately!

???afoehasappeared??? wrote:

alas I am retarded

If that's the case, you may want to rethink Ivy League...

Sinceby wrote:

4:20, 9:20 are typical. The faster you are the easier for a coach to get you in. There are SAT minimums however. The more intelligent you are the slower you and run and probably hoop on the team. ex. 4:30-9:40

Coaches want kids with ambition. Is that you?

+1

Listen to this guy.

I got in to two ivies, they flew me out for official visits, all that, and I ran 4:30 and 9:30...

We run great GPAs combined with exceptional SAT scores.

It really depends on which school you want to go to, I ran 4:19 and got a sweet deal.

Good Luck!

Well i'm thinking Princeton would be great. I know a guy there who dropped from 4:15 1600 to a 3:45 1500 in a year and a half. Plus its a nice school.

I've got good grades, sorta, I mean its all relative. Im 10th in my class of 550ish people, unweighted GPAis 3.85ish.

So I guess thats decent and doable with a good time as a junior.

???afoehasappeared??? wrote:

Well i'm thinking Princeton would be great. I know a guy there who dropped from 4:15 1600 to a 3:45 1500 in a year and a half. Plus its a nice school.

I've got good grades, sorta, I mean its all relative. Im 10th in my class of 550ish people, unweighted GPAis 3.85ish.

So I guess thats decent and doable with a good time as a junior.

Make sure Coach Farrell knows that you exist. Have you filled out an athletic questionnaire for the school yet? Any phone calls ?(although lack of phone calls could be misleading as I got a phone call after their Early Decision deadline from their coach, asking in a demanding way why I did not apply. I told them I had never heard from them and that with that phone call, I was no longer interested).

one guy (Alejandro Arroyo, Culver Academics, IN) who runs at Princeton and is a freshman, and another guy (Connor Martin, Westfield, IN)who is running at Princeton next year, both are really fast. I believe Arroyo ran 9:08 for the 3200, and ran 15:20 or alittle lower in cross. Martin ran 15:20 this year or thereabouts, and ran 9:06 last year and 4:13, he should be around <9:00 and 4:10 this year, so I'd say those two guys are pretty good for recruits, it seriously depends on which school, Princeton is probaly at the high end when it comes to running.

La_Liga_Ivy wrote:

It really depends on which school you want to go to, I ran 4:19 and got a sweet deal.

Important to point out here that there are no athletic or merit scholarships to Ivy schools--need-based aid only.

HOWEVER: It is certainly true that there are some "sweet deals" available at Ivy League schools. I got a 3/4 ride--no loans, all grant--and I couldn't run a lick, but my family need was high (to put it mildly).

I believe that some of the schools (HYP, maybe?) give all their financial aid as grants--no loans, and maybe no work-study (not sure about the latter). I don't think Cornell does this, but I know it has a policy of matching the aid package that one gets from any other Ivy school, so I suppose it comes to the same thing!

As for the Princeton men being "at the high end": yes, that's probably fair. Over the last several years, they certainly have gotten the best quality (in quantity) of recruits; they've won most of the Heps (Ivy League) cross-country titles; and they've done very well in track.

In addition, Columbia has done quite well in both sports; and Cornell has been a pretty consistent contender in cross and very strong in track. [In fact, I believe that over the last X years Cornell's (i.e. RoJo's) men have outscored the other Ivies in total middle-distance/distance points at the indoor and outdoor Heps track meets.] Both schools have recruited excellent individuals in the distances--all the Ivies have, really--but I think it's fair to say that a good part of Cornell's success has come from so-called "second-line" recruits who've made major progress.

Anyway, that's my take on it. Full disclosure: "BRF" stands for "Big Red Fan" (and alumnus).

BRF wrote:

I believe that some of the schools (HYP, maybe?) give all their financial aid as grants--no loans, and maybe no work-study (not sure about the latter). I don't think Cornell does this, but I know it has a policy of matching the aid package that one gets from any other Ivy school, so I suppose it comes to the same thing!

Harvard is certainly now a no-loan campus. While there is no real work-study (from my experience) a lot of students do work in order to get some spending money for their social life. But this can be the case on any campus.

The Ivies don't necessarily try to match the aid from other schools. I got into Harvard and Dartmouth, Harvard offering me $11,000 less than Dartmouth. We brought it up to the financial aid people at Dartmouth and they said they could not make a better offer, despite that "theory" that all Ivies give the same package to make it more fair to choose amongst them.