Looking to start training seriously for ultras. Any help?
Looking to start training seriously for ultras. Any help?
coach bigfoot wrote:
Looking to start training seriously for ultras. Any help?
Show up
Is that the only race? Do I honestly just have to show up? How hard is it to make the world team?
asfsf wrote:
Is that the only race? Do I honestly just have to show up? How hard is it to make the world team?
a cake walk!....those guys don't even run 40:00/10k segments!
asfsf wrote:
Is that the only race? Do I honestly just have to show up? How hard is it to make the world team?
If you are a guy who can break 3:00 hours in the Marathon you shouldn't have much trouble qualifying for the world team.
Just sign up for the race and show up.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:
asfsf wrote:Is that the only race? Do I honestly just have to show up? How hard is it to make the world team?
If you are a guy who can break 3:00 hours in the Marathon you shouldn't have much trouble qualifying for the world team.
Just sign up for the race and show up.
Seriously? Are you guys just messing with me?
No joke man...
Its the US 100k Championship....how competitive do you think it is....
You'll get 10 guys who are really into the race and the rest are there as a life goal or something.
If you can break 3:00 hours in the marathon and you train right you will find that you are in the running for a top finish.
I'm sure others who have run it will back me up on this...
You are not racing 2:10 marathoners out there....
Your lucky if the fastest guy out there is capable of a 2:30 marathon at his peak.
Shoot. Maybe ill try and win the whole thing then.
Kind of like why the real runners don't run the marathon until they get too slow at the other distances.
Y'all are quite funny, the only sad thing is you probably believe what you write. Running is relative - Tyson gay's 100yd time extrapolated should be a sub 3min mile - so I guess he should move up soon and clean up. I can't wait, just like I cant wait for y'all to put on your big boy pants and "show up" for the 100k win. Lets run = comedy central, who knew.
There is an alternative method of qualification: You have to let Dean Karnazes suck you off.
666EnergyDrink wrote:
There is an alternative method of qualification: You have to let Dean Karnazes suck you off.
Didn't he do that in all 50 states in 50 days?
chuckles the clown wrote:
Y'all are quite funny, the only sad thing is you probably believe what you write. Running is relative - Tyson gay's 100yd time extrapolated should be a sub 3min mile - so I guess he should move up soon and clean up. I can't wait, just like I cant wait for y'all to put on your big boy pants and "show up" for the 100k win. Lets run = comedy central, who knew.
Are you saying the 100k championship is really competitive outside of the top 10 guys who are there?
Anybody who can run a marthon under 3:00 hrs and TRAINS RIGHT for the race has a chance at a top finish. I don't think a 3:00 marathoner will win the race but they will finish pretty high in the standings.
ITs not an easy race by any means. If you don't train right for the raise then you are doomed for failure.
But it is not a very competitive race compared to the other US championships. I'm willing to bet that the winner this year has a marathon PR in the high 2:30's.
coach bigfoot wrote:
Looking to start training seriously for ultras. Any help?
You don't "qualify", you register for the race and show up. Obviously you have to be a USATF member. If you place top 3 you go to worlds. (probably on your own dime)
http://www.usatf.org/events/2011/USA100kmChampionships/Look to run around 7 hours to place top 3. That's 6:45 pace, and that means a couple back to back sub-3 marathons.
I'm sure it's not very competitive once you get outside of the top 10. But for sure the top couple guys are probably worth way better than 2:30s or whatever (does Wardian usually do this race?), and being a sub 3 hour marathoner will not get you anywhere NEAR the top 3, as an earlier poster said it would.
But no doubt it's far less competitive than any of the road championships in the 5k-marathon range. That much is obvious.
Are you saying ANY championship is really competitive outside the top 10 who are there?
In distances where there are more competitors there may be more dark horses - just like with time/distance being relative so to is numbers/contenders.
So by having allen webb in a marathon would make it more competitive in your thinking? Doesn't correlate for me.
Compare the talent level for the 100k championship and the 10k championship....which has the deeper talent pool going into the race.
I'm really not trying to take anything from the 100k race. Its a tough race but not as many people do it when they are at the top of their game. The winners are guys who can go 2:30s in the marathon and every once and awhile you'll get a 2:20 type guy there but never faster. Every once and awhile you'll even get an ageing elite marathoner who 15 years ago did a 2:14 but that is about it.
I don't think a sub 3:00 marathoner is going to win the race or place top 3. What I said was you could have a top finish if you are a 3:00 marathoner. I'm thinking at least top 20 if not top 10 to me that is a top finish in a championship race.
And yes I've run the race before. I finished 8th when I did run it. About two months before the race I did a 2:48 for the marathon.
When I did the race I was under no illusion that I was beating the best in America. Its a fun race...Sign up and run.
If you can go sub 2:20 why would you ever want to run a 60 mile race? 60 miles is hard...doing it at 6:45 pace is very hard!
USA Trail Championships are also weak at standard (non-ultra) distances. Check out the 2010 USATF Half-Marathon Trail Championship ... a total of 32 finishers (total for men and women). Run 9:30 pace as a woman and you're in the top 8. Run 6:30 pace as a guy and you're top 10.
http://www.usatf.org/events/2010/USAHalfMarathonTrailChampionships/results.asp