Where exactly do african americans attend college?

Different college's cater to different demographics, there are many HBC where the percentage of African Americans is very large. Just as a white person may not feel comfortable going to a school with only a few other white students, so too might an African American not feel comfortable going to a school with only a few other Black students. It is not necessarily anyone's fault, or a reflection of anything other than the fact that, traditionally, few African Americans attend that specific college.

I'm not sure of the enrollment numbers on a national level, but I would imagine that they tend to trend much more closely to the composition as our society as a whole than what is reflected in the enrollment numbers at a college like UC Irvine.

UC campuses can't reject students based on race but can on national origin. The UC system was forced by the courts to end anti-Asian racial quotas in the 1980s. Today UC Berkeley and UC Los Angeles are 40% Asian. UC Berkeley has a written policy limiting Chinese to 30% which is not contested. USC and Stanford use numerical racial quotas to limit Asians to 30% and 20% of the freshman class, respectively. USC used to limit Asians to 20% but was force by outside donors to raise Asian enrollment to 30%. The silly part is that 'Asian' is not a race, but is a landmass representing 80% of the Eurasian continent. Asians can be black skinned, white skinned, yello skinned, olive skinned, and every tone in between. I don't understand American race mythology at all very well. Maybe someone can explain to me how this peculiar custom began ;-)

Public Cali U wrote:

UC campuses can't reject students based on race but can on national origin. The UC system was forced by the courts to end anti-Asian racial quotas in the 1980s. Today UC Berkeley and UC Los Angeles are 40% Asian. UC Berkeley has a written policy limiting Chinese to 30% which is not contested. USC and Stanford use numerical racial quotas to limit Asians to 30% and 20% of the freshman class, respectively. USC used to limit Asians to 20% but was force by outside donors to raise Asian enrollment to 30%. The silly part is that 'Asian' is not a race, but is a landmass representing 80% of the Eurasian continent. Asians can be black skinned, white skinned, yello skinned, olive skinned, and every tone in between. I don't understand American race mythology at all very well. Maybe someone can explain to me how this peculiar custom began ;-)

It began with hipster liberals spinning BS and believing everyword of their propaganda.

P.Whelan wrote:

Just as a white person may not feel comfortable going to a school with only a few other white students.

Excellent point. Notice that UC Irvine has a caucasian pop. of only 19%. Why is that? It is a prestegious institution, it is surrounded by some of the most white and prosperous cities in the nation, and is located right next to the beach. It's not like the white people are simply going to better schools. But the fact remains that between 1988 and 1993, the years I attended UCI, the white demographic shrunk from 52 to 25%. That is a crazy statistic. Nothing even similar has happened at any of the other UC schools. It seems like even though UC Irvine is a world renowned university, complete with multiple Nobel Prize laureates, white people have decided they would rather go somewhere else.

Ward Connerly who was a UC regent has written about this very topic. CA passed prop 209 in 1996 to prohibit racial discrimination in admissions.

http://www.mindingthecampus.com/originals/2009/06/by_ward_connerly_about_five.html

According to Connerly, various schemes were concocted to keep Asians out after 209 passed because it was feared that other races could not match their study habits.

Enroll, can't hang, and return to life of crime = negative enrollment

Public Cali U wrote:

Asians can be black skinned.....

No way! I have a thing for black chicks and asians. This sounds like the best of both worlds.

Black skinned people reside in equatorial areas like Amazon, India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Central Africa. The further north you go the lighter the skin tone.

They go to schools like Hampton and Spelman.

When I was growing up, I always thought Georgetown was a heavily African-American school b/c in the 80's all of the black kids that I knew wore Georgetown gear (as did the rappers). When I took a trip to DC as an 8th grader, Georgetown was the only area that didn't have a single black person in sight.

As public world class institutions the UC campuses cannot exclude Asians by court order. In the 80s the court supervised admissions and forced non-discriminatory procedures. USC is a private world class institution and was pressured by their researchers to increase the Asian quota to 30%. Cal Tech is private and has never had racial quotas. Stanford, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, ivies, etc. started the whole quota system in the 1920s to keep out Jews and still use keep down Asians to 20% on average.

I know about regulated admittance procedures, but it still doesn't explain why white people are high-tailing it out of UC Irvine. Again, this is not happening at nearly the same rate at any other UC campus.

It reminds me of what I observe at Griffith Park. On a weekday, with fewer people, you see whites, hispanics, Asians, African-Americans all enjoying the park. On the weekend, when it gets more crowded and the percentage of hispanics go up, you still see large numbers asians and blacks, but the white population all but disappears. Are they less tolerant to not being the majority than other races?

Of course, it began with conservative racial theories that included, but were not limited to, justifications for slavery, colonialism and anti-mycegnation laws. Of course, "multiculturalism" was the short-sighted answer to this original foolishness, but let's not rewrite history.

Community Colleges are big in California and function often more like residential colleges than the "trade schools" that they often are in other parts of the country. It is damn expensive, these days, to go "away to school" the way we used to (we Gen X'ers were the last generation for which this was broadly financially feasible for the modest lower or middle class).

towhee wrote:

Ward Connerly who was a UC regent has written about this very topic. CA passed prop 209 in 1996 to prohibit racial discrimination in admissions.

http://www.mindingthecampus.com/originals/2009/06/by_ward_connerly_about_five.html

According to Connerly, various schemes were concocted to keep Asians out after 209 passed because it was feared that other races could not match their study habits.

It ain't their study habits, it is higher population mean IQ. HBD - human biodiversity. This shit ain't going away and the evidence gets stronger, finally shorn of its racist and jdgemental baggage. It is fun believe in something that both hard-core (eualists) and hard-coreives (moralizers) hate.

Man, my phone keypad sucks - illegible typos. I said "HBD is an idea that both liberals (being equalists) and conservatives (beting moralists) hate." The facts are clear - population means in IQ differ by ethnicity and it isn't environment causing it (well, environment might be causing selective pressures that privledge mate selection based on things that hurt IQ, such as the Africa/Parasite load studies that have come out recently that show that in high parasite/infection countries women prefer more masculine/high testosterone men as a mark of beauty, such desire being selected for as it produced parasite/disease resitance.

(sensitive issue) wrote:

I was looking up some information on UC Irvine on wikipedia and noticed the percentage of student population based on race.

Asian American 47.9%

Caucasian 19.1%

African American -2.3%

How the hell do you get NEGATIVE enrollment anyway?!? And please people, let's not make this be about race.

Huh. Well, I too went to Wikipedia:

I'm not sure where you looked up info on UCI "on Wikipedia," but apparently it wasn't this site! Anyway, the site I looked at had the following info:

Ethnicity of 2010 enrolling freshman classEthnicity Percent

Asian American 47.9%

Caucasian 19.1%

Mexican American 14.1%

Decline to state 4.3%

Spanish American 4.2%

African American 2.4%

American-Indian <1%

[Apologies in advance if this site's formatting doesn't accept the Wiki stuff.]

So evidently the problem is solved: whatever you read had a typo (a person might almost have figured that out in advance), and the AA population is actually a positive 2.4%.

OP, given that you started the thread by a) asking about race, and b) making a big deal out of an obvious typo and tying it to a specific race, I'd say it's a little disingenuous to ask that the thread not "be about race."

Nevertheless, OP, I make the following race-neutral announcement: you're a troll and a troublemaker.

Stay off this board and go do your homework.

Public Cali U wrote:

I don't understand American race mythology at all very well. Maybe someone can explain to me how this peculiar custom began ;-)

Is it truly an american mythology? Hasn't there been a long and storied history of racial / ethnic conflict in Europe? I seem to recall quite a few instances of Millions of people being ethnicly "cleansed" outside either american continent. Some explorers from europe have also been alleged to have eliminated large populations of people in the americas. Often the targets of that elimination were identified by race.