Those dirty cops are at it again.
http://www.bvblackspin.com/2010/06/11/brandon-johnson-police-brutality/
Those dirty cops are at it again.
http://www.bvblackspin.com/2010/06/11/brandon-johnson-police-brutality/
At their best, the police are the armed muscle for enforcing the societal order that allows the few to benefit at the expense of the many. They are effectively a private army for the economic elite. They exist to protect and serve the upper class
At their worst, they are violent, racist psychopaths.
[quote]Nat Turner wrote:
Those dirty cops are at it again.
The police report states that witnesses noticed Johnson's brother trying to kick in the door of an abandoned building. Officers then went to arrest him for breaking and entering, to the protest of Johnson and some others.
Not saying he deserved it, but clearly the "victim's" stupidity played a role in the getting his ass kicked.
random a hole wrote:
[quote]Nat Turner wrote:
Those dirty cops are at it again.
The police report states that witnesses noticed Johnson's brother trying to kick in the door of an abandoned building. Officers then went to arrest him for breaking and entering, to the protest of Johnson and some others.
Not saying he deserved it, but clearly the "victim's" stupidity played a role in the getting his ass kicked.
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So if I see someone doing something stupid or even illegal on the street I am entitled to hurt him badly? Or can I do this only if I am a cop and the guy has been restrained by other cops?
How can you possibly defend this?
The New UncleB wrote:
Not saying he deserved it, but clearly the "victim's" stupidity played a role in the getting his ass kicked.
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So if I see someone doing something stupid or even illegal on the street I am entitled to hurt him badly? Or can I do this only if I am a cop and the guy has been restrained by other cops?
How can you possibly defend this?[/quote]
No. No. I didn't.
Reading comprehension does not appear to be your strong suit. When you try to prevent a cop from arresting someone you are likely to get your ass kicked. I am not justifying that, just stating it is likely to happen. Most people know this. This 15 year old apparently did not. This appears to be news to you as well.
random a hole wrote:
The New UncleB wrote:Not saying he deserved it, but clearly the "victim's" stupidity played a role in the getting his ass kicked.
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So if I see someone doing something stupid or even illegal on the street I am entitled to hurt him badly? Or can I do this only if I am a cop and the guy has been restrained by other cops?
How can you possibly defend this?
No. No. I didn't.
Reading comprehension does not appear to be your strong suit. When you try to prevent a cop from arresting someone you are likely to get your ass kicked. I am not justifying that, just stating it is likely to happen. Most people know this. This 15 year old apparently did not. This appears to be news to you as well.[/quote]
Let me get this straight.We should expect to get punched in the face AFTER being restrained by the police if we break the law?
rodney king wrote:
Let me get this straight.We should expect to get punched in the face AFTER being restrained by the police if we break the law?
No. You know that there are 2 different versions to what actually happened according to this article. In one version he "protests" the ongoing arrest of his brother, in the other he "questions" the arrest of his brother. You would be right in saying in either case the 15yr old's actions appear to be benign according to this article. (The source may have a bias and the final paragraph brings in an editorial/commentary tone.)
When you are trying to stop the arrest of somebody you can expect shit to happen. I do not say it is at all right, proper or just, but to act shocked that it happened is naive. I don't think the kid is that naive, he took a chance and lost, but he will probably pick up some nice coin as compensation.
rodney king wrote:
Let me get this straight.We should expect to get punched in the face AFTER being restrained by the police if we break the law?
Yeah, moron. That's what you should expect. That's exactly what he was saying. Perfect interpretation.
random a hole wrote:
When you are trying to stop the arrest of somebody you can expect shit to happen. I do not say it is at all right, proper or just, but to act shocked that it happened is naive. I don't think the kid is that naive, he took a chance and lost, but he will probably pick up some nice coin as compensation.
So, to sum it up -- so we can expect it, but it is not OK. In other words, our police force can be expected to act like gratuitously violent brutes.
rodney moron wrote:
rodney king wrote:Let me get this straight.We should expect to get punched in the face AFTER being restrained by the police if we break the law?
Yeah, moron. That's what you should expect. That's exactly what he was saying. Perfect interpretation.
That's exactly what he meant. He said its not OK, but we should expect it.
Try to stop a cop in the activity of arresting someone and it is likely shit will go down.
Rephrase that any way you like.
And what has taken so long for someone to introduce this link, a favorite of mine.
Protect and serve? more like assault and maim.
The police have become (didn't use to be) the only street gang to wear a uniform.
It seems they exist today to steal from the common people (write tickets) and give it to the politicians (to make up for tax increases that the common people won't support).
They have become nothing better than common thieves (or control freak track officials), which I guess is exactly what the Sheriff of Nottingham of Robin Hood fame was supposed to be.
I look at these incidents case by case. A lot of times the cops are just defending themselves like anyone should have the right to do against a criminal.
Generally though, I think that police are the footsoldiers for big government. The two trends go hand in hand--big government and abusive police. They're basically an occupying army with their buzz cuts, wraparound sunglasses, and M4 carbines. But if your car is stolen or apartment is burglarized, they're going to do virtually nothing.
I think people will be reading about it in future history books and wondering--how in hell did those people put up with it? Much like we think about past evils of history, such as slavery, witch burnings, despotism, and the like.
Most cops are good and do protect the community. Some are corrupt scum bags. Don't lump them all together. Just keep in mind they are trained, by definition, to be violent when needed. It's bound to happen on occasion.
I would vebture to estimate that about 30% of your average police force are good people , who are looking to make a difference.
The other 70% are under the impression the Dirty Harry is not a ficticious person. They feel empowered with the badge and gun, and flaunt it.
Most therapist will tell you these same people have low self esteem issues, and feel better about themselves if they walk around with a gun and are usually the ones you see or hear about abusing their power.
Nat Turner wrote:
Those dirty cops are at it again.
http://www.bvblackspin.com/2010/06/11/brandon-johnson-police-brutality/
Yeah, and the guy got fired for it too. Just because there are bad cops out there doesn't mean they are all bad...the VAST majority of them are good.
Flagpole wrote:
Yeah, and the guy got fired for it too. Just because there are bad cops out there doesn't mean they are all bad...the VAST majority of them are good.
That may be so but such incidents as this are all too routine. Something is systemically wrong when incidents like this show up on a weekly basis. Plus, you know the incidents we see and hear about are the tip of the iceberg and if there is not video or a huge amount of eyewitnesses then we never hear about this incident and the cop is back on the street in no time.
The Pigs are used as occupying forces all to often. The Pigs hire whomever they want without local citizen oversight. BART, Oakland PD, San Jose PD, hire White Thugs like Johannes Meserle who lived in the rich East Bay and assassinated Oscar Grant by shooting him in the back face down and handcuffed. The White Pig Police Unions like PORAC hold the St of California legislators hostage and choose who their fellow White Pigs are. Citizens are left out of the hiring process. It's like the corruption at USATF on a grand scale.
"protect and serve" is nothing more than an Orwellian euphemism. The police are not all bad but they are an enforcement agency of the executive branch of government. Fireman protect and serve. Police enforce and control.