Places to work & live at altitude (~5K-8K ft) besides Boulder where the people are well-educated and have good job opps?

Southern Utah, Cedar City in between Las Vegas and Salt Lake City it's the best of both worlds.

So way less liberal than either, and not as high? cool story bro, just to to SLC it has everything, or Park City if you can afford it.

Thanks. hmm, looks like cedar city UT is at ~5000ft and like 7.5 hr drive to LA, California if I ever want to get out which is a cool bonus

in response to other poster yeah I am thinking of places that are sort of the non-religious & perhaps somewhat liberal (although doesnt have to necessarily be strong left)

Gotta put in a good word for the folks at BYU. I'm not mormon and not ever going to be, but I love racing there because the track facilities are among the best in the world really and the people there are about the nicest you'll find anywhere in the USA. The altitude in Provo is about 4500', not as high as Boulder but a little higher than SLC. The number of runners they've had there like Doug Padilla and Ed Eyestone speaks for itself.

Also, when the weather gets back, there's something to be said for having a 5 lap to the mile Mondo Super-X track in town. The outdoor track at BYU is also Mondo Super-X.

Rob Bernstein wrote:

Thanks. hmm, looks like cedar city UT is at ~5000ft and like 7.5 hr drive to LA, California if I ever want to get out which is a cool bonus

in response to other poster yeah I am thinking of places that are sort of the non-religious & perhaps somewhat liberal (although doesnt have to necessarily be strong left)

Um, Salt Lake City is the closest you'll get to a liberal area in Utah (all 8 democratic state senators are from Salt Lake City, and 19 of the 20 democratic state reps are from the Salt Lake City area)... so if that is really a concern, not sure why you would even consider Cedar City. Not to mention since Salt Lake City is the epicenter for all of Utah, having something like 60-65% of the population and an even bigger majority of the economic activity IIRC...

Seems like the top choices are probably Boulder CO and Flagstaff AZ, though... Salt Lake City would probably be #3 on the list if you didn't mind being ~500 feet lower and the area being mostly religious.

I was thinking Denver, but there's no educated people there, and the place is a rat trap, and a bastion for selfish Tea Party klansmen.

I grew up and went to high school in Los Angeles (the sports central of the entire planet earth) and Mammoth is a days drive away and has the distance club with the most medals.

New Mexico (albuquerque and Santa Fe included) doesnt have many job availabilities as it has one of the highest rates of unemployment in the country and certainly cannot be considered an educated area. New Mexico consistently ranks in the bottom 5 states in the country for education and the state has to offer free education through the lottery scholarship in order to even get anyone interested in furthering their education. New Mexico also has one of the highest drop out rates for high sschool education with the state having around a 40% drop out rate.

Liberal as can be but about as uneducated as you can find in the United States. Santa Fe certainly doesnt offer much in the job category, you would find more in Albuquerque but it is not the nicest place.

You may be able to find some things in Montana or Wyoming possibly but I am not sure what the job situation would be in those states. Utah would likely be the top state that I can think of because cost of living in most places in CA is very high when compared to other states.

I guess more importantly this all depends on the field one is looking to get into. If software/computer related then CA would be the place to be, if industry/manufacturing then maybe not. The best answer would probably be to get an altitude tent, a large amount of iron whether pill form or liquid, and a good job that offers paid vacation. You could sleep at high altitude each night, train wherever you live, and use the paid vacation time for an actual visit to an altitude location to train.

Altitude tents work but one has to make sure they are getting enough time in the tent and are taking very large amounts of iron.

LOS ALAMOS NEW MEXICO!!!!

that's by Santa Fe, it's a DOE lab. There's Univ of NM there too and other stuff going on in Santa Fe. Santa Fe is at good altitude too though, ~6k, Los Alamos is over 7k though. And you have the sangre de cristo mountains to run in too!

Fort Collins, CO

Not necessarily at 5K+ elev., but very accessable to altitude:

Boise, ID

Bend, OR (a bit isolated)

Missoula or Bozeman, MT

Fort Collins or Durango (town is smallish), CO

Reno, NV

Sedona, AZ

South Lake Tahoe, CA (bit too small, perhaps?)

Also, New Mexico has some great pockets (Taos, Santa Fe, ABQ). A lot of local Indians aren't traditionally educated so they rank poorly in tests but are bright people and talented artists. Jobs are scarce for sure.

altitude trainin wrote:

LOS ALAMOS NEW MEXICO!!!!

that's by Santa Fe, it's a DOE lab. There's Univ of NM there too and other stuff going on in Santa Fe. Santa Fe is at good altitude too though, ~6k, Los Alamos is over 7k though. And you have the sangre de cristo mountains to run in too!

The lab jobs are very rare and you need be very qualified in order to get one unless you're taking a janitor or facility mantanence job. Aside from the lab, there are no other real jobs in Los Alamos. Great place to train, as is Taos but good luck finding a job in Taos. You can be a ski lift operator in the winter but other than that there isnt much.

sad but true wrote:

altitude trainin wrote:

LOS ALAMOS NEW MEXICO!!!!

that's by Santa Fe, it's a DOE lab. There's Univ of NM there too and other stuff going on in Santa Fe. Santa Fe is at good altitude too though, ~6k, Los Alamos is over 7k though. And you have the sangre de cristo mountains to run in too!

The lab jobs are very rare and you need be very qualified in order to get one unless you're taking a janitor or facility mantanence job. Aside from the lab, there are no other real jobs in Los Alamos. Great place to train, as is Taos but good luck finding a job in Taos. You can be a ski lift operator in the winter but other than that there isnt much.

If you are looking for lefties, you probably will find a lot of Commies working at the DoE lab. Undercover, of course.

I would have to agree with SLC.

Plenty of people.

Not that conservative (doesn't feel much like the rest of Utah)

Lots of jobs

World class skiing within 20 minute drive (seriously)

Delta airlines hub

Adobe is building a big plant there and advertising jobs

Great outdoors

Not far from the famous southern utah landscapes

Just a beautiful place

A good list already.

I'll toss in Calgary and Banff. Calgary is just over 4.