Just finished running xc for D1 school, planning on doing some grad work at a D3 school. Am I allowed to run xc for them next year? I redshirted a year, so I still have eligibility in D1, but I don't know how the D3 eligibility system works.
Just finished running xc for D1 school, planning on doing some grad work at a D3 school. Am I allowed to run xc for them next year? I redshirted a year, so I still have eligibility in D1, but I don't know how the D3 eligibility system works.
I'm pretty sure you can not compete in Division 3 unless you are in an undergrad program. So it seems you are out of luck.
The best person to ask would be the compliance officer at the school you are going to attend. There are often conference rules on top of general DIII rules that you need to be aware of.
I think it is totally possible. I think you can't skip a year, though.
But the quality at D3 might less then what you are used when it comes to facilities and support. Good coaches.
former d3 guy wrote:
I'm pretty sure you can not compete in Division 3 unless you are in an undergrad program. So it seems you are out of luck.
Not true
must be an undergrad at the DIII school in which you are seeking a masters degree.
you can compete provided you have not used 4 seasons of eligibility in the sport you want to run. You have 10 semesters to use 8 semesters of eligibility.
Many years ago in 91, I went from a D-I to NAIA. I had to sit out the cross country season, but was allowed to run track. All undergrad though. The reasoning for the sit out was that I went from an upper division to a lower. If I went from the NAIA to the D-I I would have been able to compete right away.
This topic has come up many times here. You can only compete as a graduate student at the same institution you graduated from as an undergradutate. Therefore, if you graduate from the D1 school, you cannot compete at any D3 school.
MK wrote:
This topic has come up many times here. You can only compete as a graduate student at the same institution you graduated from as an undergradutate. Therefore, if you graduate from the D1 school, you cannot compete at any D3 school.
This is correct.
MK wrote:
This topic has come up many times here. You can only compete as a graduate student at the same institution you graduated from as an undergradutate. Therefore, if you graduate from the D1 school, you cannot compete at any D3 school.
If this is true, then how do you explain Chas Gillespie's situation? He ran his fifth year at William and Mary, apparently as a graduate student after graduated from Harvard.
http://www.flotrack.org/articles/view/2637-chas-gillespie-kwik-eFormer Harvard distance standout Chas Gillespie is now running his fifth year at William and Mary.
"I had a conversation with my coach at Harvard, Jason Saretsky, at the end of my junior year. I had a big breakthrough year that year. I told him that I wanted to continue running after I graduated from Harvard. I wasn't done with the sport and I loved it. I wanted to keep doing it. In the Ivy League, you can't compete for a fifth year. You can compete for a fifth year anywhere, but you can't attend school for a fifth year anywhere and compete."
"I'm getting a master's degree in education."
HL wrote:
MK wrote:This topic has come up many times here. You can only compete as a graduate student at the same institution you graduated from as an undergradutate. Therefore, if you graduate from the D1 school, you cannot compete at any D3 school.
If this is true, then how do you explain Chas Gillespie's situation? He ran his fifth year at William and Mary, apparently as a graduate student after graduated from Harvard.
http://www.flotrack.org/articles/view/2637-chas-gillespie-kwik-eFormer Harvard distance standout Chas Gillespie is now running his fifth year at William and Mary.
"I had a conversation with my coach at Harvard, Jason Saretsky, at the end of my junior year. I had a big breakthrough year that year. I told him that I wanted to continue running after I graduated from Harvard. I wasn't done with the sport and I loved it. I wanted to keep doing it. In the Ivy League, you can't compete for a fifth year. You can compete for a fifth year anywhere, but you can't attend school for a fifth year anywhere and compete."
"I'm getting a master's degree in education."
The rule we are discussing is a rule that only applies to Division 3. Division 1 and 2 do not have this rule in place.
HL wrote:
If this is true, then how do you explain Chas Gillespie's situation? He ran his fifth year at William and Mary, apparently as a graduate student after graduated from Harvard.
Former Harvard distance standout Chas Gillespie is now running his fifth year at William and Mary.
Simple, you don't know much about what school's are D3 and which are D1. Hope that clears it up.
A former DI runner came to my DIII school for graduate studies and was allowed to compete.
prognisticator wrote:
Simple, you don't know much about what school's are D3 and which are D1. Hope that clears it up.
Nice try, but no. MK wrote "You can only compete as a graduate student at the same institution you graduated from as an undergradutate. Therefore, if you graduate from the D1 school, you cannot compete at any D3 school."
Personally I've never heard an entire NCAA division referred to as an "institution;" the term certainly implies a specific university/college. Therefore he was saying you have compete as a graduate at the same school you competed at as an undergrad (regardless of division), something Gillespie clearly did not do. I'm not bringing up Gillespie's situation to be pretentious, I just want to get to the bottom of this rule because I'm a D3er considering competing in D1 as a graduate student so I want to know if that would be legal.
HL wrote:
prognisticator wrote:Simple, you don't know much about what school's are D3 and which are D1. Hope that clears it up.
Nice try, but no. MK wrote "You can only compete as a graduate student at the same institution you graduated from as an undergradutate. Therefore, if you graduate from the D1 school, you cannot compete at any D3 school."
Personally I've never heard an entire NCAA division referred to as an "institution;" the term certainly implies a specific university/college. Therefore he was saying you have compete as a graduate at the same school you competed at as an undergrad (regardless of division), something Gillespie clearly did not do. I'm not bringing up Gillespie's situation to be pretentious, I just want to get to the bottom of this rule because I'm a D3er considering competing in D1 as a graduate student so I want to know if that would be legal.
You can only compete as a graduate student at a D3 school at the same institution from which you received your undergraduate degree. I think that's what MK meant to say but didn't specify.
Hope that clears it up.
And yes, going from D3 to a D1 graduate school is no problem for you.
Thanks!
MK wrote:
This topic has come up many times here. You can only compete as a graduate student at the same institution you graduated from as an undergradutate. Therefore, if you graduate from the D1 school, you cannot compete at any D3 school.
This is true but there are outs...
I believe that one out is that you can run at a different institution provided that you are pursuing a master's degree that is not offered at the undergraduate school.
Pretty sure that you can run d3 if your d1 school does not offer the grad level program. So if you're seeking an MBA, and the d1 school doesn't have it but the d3 has it, you should be in luck.