75yrs. Can't beat the Romans
75yrs. Can't beat the Romans
no idea, all i know is i should be dead by then
I wouldn't say there is a cut oof point,the hegemony will just fade away and end up in a marrass,
too many stupid people at the top I am afraid.
2012.
The repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" is an indication of where our country's moral senses are going. How can a country hold together with no sense of morals? The fact that we are giving in to a minority of people who have perverted proclivities signals that our once great nation is in trouble. We can be saved only if the majority stand up soon and make it known that we are no longer willing to reject all sense of decency for some silly idea of acceptance.
Part of a bin Laden led caliphate by 2017 at the latest.
Runner93 wrote:
The repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" is an indication of where our country's moral senses are going. How can a country hold together with no sense of morals? The fact that we are giving in to a minority of people who have perverted proclivities signals that our once great nation is in trouble. We can be saved only if the majority stand up soon and make it known that we are no longer willing to reject all sense of decency for some silly idea of acceptance.
Are you trolling? Because if you are serious you are a f***ing idiot.
Buy your guns now to defend what you have worked hard for. Buy a solar generator to have technical power. The US is about to collapse. Why do you think all the WalMart owners (Waltons) have built stadium size underground fortresses. My uncle helped build them and he said the Waltons know that the US is going down. They have enough surplus to last 5 years under ground.
You prove just how far we've fallen. I show that I still have some moral sense and I must be a troll or an idiot. Some, like you, are not only indifferent to morals, but outright against them.
You seem to be suggesting this will take place in the future.
inca warrior wrote:
Buy your guns now to defend what you have worked hard for. Buy a solar generator to have technical power. The US is about to collapse. Why do you think all the WalMart owners (Waltons) have built stadium size underground fortresses. My uncle helped build them and he said the Waltons know that the US is going down. They have enough surplus to last 5 years under ground.
If one person found their ventilation sources, they would last 5 minutes underground.
i've always thought about withdrawing like 20k and keeping it hidden in my house incase some shit like the movie Die Hard happens and all this digital crap goes away and the ATM says i have no money
It seems likely that upon the demise of the U.S., the phenomenally wealthy would choose to bunker down in solitude in a hidden fortress instead of simply moving out of the country with their billions of dollars.
This has been a popular debate since the founding, over 200 years ago. The US will probably go away one day, but none of us, or even our children, will live to see it.
By any measure, the USA is already a busted flush.
Accumulating the greatest debt in the history of mankind, up to £13.8 trillion as of now and nothing whatsoever stopping it reaching around $20 billion by 2015 - short of maybe the greatest sovereign default in history.
Servicing that debt this year alone cost $414 billion, many times your education budget.
And the market is so concerned, your borrowing cost went up a massive 28pc in the last month! - with the 10 year treasury yield reaching 3.33pc.
And as for the budget deficit - in November alone, the US government spent $150.4 billion more than it collected in taxes.
Just how will America in 2011, create sufficient wealth just to begin to make some impact of these horrendous debts?
And what happens when the rest of the world gets fed-up with both lending vast sums to the US and coming to realise the Yankee dollar is becoming as worthless as the Zimbabwe version?
If only, for instance, you hadn’t allowed your own companies to export most of your manufacturing jobs to low cost countries.
Since 2003, more than 20,000 manufacturing plants have shut down.
Imagine the sort of wealth they’d be producing right now.
But there are now only 8 million manufacturing workers in a population of 300 million, leaving a country with a legion of unskilled workers stuck on long-term unemployment benefits.
We knew the jig was up for the British Empire when our economy declined to the point where we could no longer sustain the military and financial muscle to maintain it.
The result of fighting WW1 and WW2.
With the US, it seems the rot set in, (unnecessarily) fighting wars in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.
[quote]Alf Shrubb wrote:
We knew the jig was up for the British Empire when our economy declined to the point where we could no longer sustain the military and financial muscle to maintain it.
The result of fighting WW1 and WW2.
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And the opposite reaction of not fighting those wars?
Dann würden Sie sprechen Deutsch ...
Unless we get Uncle B on our side quickly then we won't be able to survive much longer!
Flags. These are always a bad sign. Hardly a politician appears on television who doesn’t stand in front of an American flag, sometimes three American flags. A venomous nationalism now poisons the air, and grows. We are off and rolling.
The trappings of fascism spread. General David Petraeus, commander of the Eastern Front, poses with the President in the White House in combat fatigues. The country is now the Homeland, reminiscent of the Nazi Fatherland and the Soviet Motherland. We hear of American Exceptionalism, the ritual self-idolizaton beloved of pathological nationalism. Blood and Soil. The American Dream. Ubermenschen. All we need is a short Austrian.
We may get one. The times ripen for a man on a horse. (Or perhaps a woman: Twitler of Alaska looms.) An ignorant populaton, unread, unfamiliar with the outside world, focuses its anxieties on troubling dark things lurking abroad, the brown hordes from the south, the rising Chinese, inexplicable Moslems who want to kill all Christians. Sooner rather than later such a mob finds solace in an angry unity. From an unhappy lower middle-class spring Brown Shirts. Wait.
Things come together: Falling standards of living across a country in irremediable decline, diminishing expectations, growing anger in search of focus, a sense of a birthright being stolen as preeminence drifts across the Pacific. Here is fertile soil for some strange crop not yet clearly seen.
It will play out against a backdrop of totalitarian watchfulness all too imaginable. A digital world lends itself to tyranny, making it, I think, inescapable. For practical purposes, the capacity to store data is infinite, to network it across the world, to track, to scan, to watch. This is not the place for a disquisition on the technology of surveillance. Just note that the machinery exists for a totalitarian watchfulness beyond Stalin’s wettest dreams. The government wants this, pushes for it daily, and gets it. You can’t spend a dollar, take a flight, or send an email without a federal federal office watching. It is getting worse and cannot be stopped. Surveillance is too easy.
We will be told, are being told, that to be safe we must submit, that enemies within and without are upon us, that terrorists spawn plots everywhere. Where communists once hid in every closet and the House Unamerican Activities Committee, HUAC, hunted them, now we have Islamo-terrorists hunted by Homeland Security.
What matter civil rights when the Moslem is at our throats? The price of liberty is eternal vigilance, and the vigilance ends liberty.
Hysteria darkly flowers. Homeland Security now wants to train us in how to react to a nuclear attack, a la 1950. Scare’m, keep’em scared, tell them you are protecting them, and they will kiss your boots. An Australian publishes embarrasing cable traffic from American embassies, and politicians call for him to be killed by the CIA. The agency is revered as a sort of clandestine Batman and Robin, defending America secretly where evil swirls in the coming night. Kill, kill. On subways we are told to watch each other, to report curious behavior to the authorities. Nothing can stop this.
Constitutionality becomes a fading memory. Random searches in train stations, genital examinations in airports, the decline of habeas corpus, the evasion of the duty of Congress to declare wars, on and on. The government does what it wants. There is no recourse. We are told that it is to make us safe. I haven’t asked to be made safe.
The genius of American politics is to espouse democracy while keeping political power from the people. The trick is to have barely distinguishable candidates for the presidency who carefully avoid mention of substance—the wars, for example, or affirmative action, guns, abortion. These electioins, if so they be, allow people to wave placards, roar invective about throwing the rascals out and returning to traditional American etc. The dust settles and things remain as they were.
Governance does not rest with the people. Today, decree replaces legislation, and must, for our safety. If Homeland Security says you must go through a CAT scan, naked, and singing the Star Spangled Banner, then you have to do it. There is no recourse. You can unelect an elected official, but there is no way to get at a bureaucrat. If you do not submit, you go to jail.
Shortly we will hear the death rattle of free expression. No government sees an advantage to itself in a free press, though countries with decent governments feel much less threatened. Our government fears nothing more.
America has a carefully controlled press that appears free because it is not explicitly controlled by the government. But the real power in America rests with the big corporations and their lobbies, with Wall Street, whose personnel move in and out of the formal government at will. All of the traditional media, radio, newspapers, and television, are owned by large corporations. How curious that they do not question large corporations.
The only free press in America is the internet, and the government does not like it. Washington now moves to “regulate” it. To promote fairness, you see, to prevent piracy, and to maintain national security. Then it will be found necessary to suppress “hate sites.” Just now you are reading a site that has been blocked on many federal installations for promoting hate. There is no recourse.
How will this play out? America retreats behind its emotional borders, gazes over the ramparts, frightened and hostile. In those outlets of the media than pander to The Heartland, to the manipulable unlettered, the nationalist drumbeat grows apace. That America’s bankrupty results from America’s economic policies, that the country is everywhere hated because of wilfully chosen behavior—this does not occur to people who do not read, who do not so much as know the dates of World War II. They will find someone else to blame. Liberals. Mohammedans. Mexicans.
A danger is that the country will lash out abroad, ever more feebly as the economy declines, at nations that no will longer pay attention to it. Washington says that it “will not tolerate a nuclear Iran,” and Iran ignores the admonition. You cannot not tolerate what you can’t prevent. The Pentagon sends the carriers to steam ferally in circles off North Korea, which ignores them. The consequences of wounded vanity are not trivial in world affairs, as anyone knows who has a familiarity with the Treaty of Versailles. But who does?
It serves nothing to raise alarums, to pen Philippics, to gnash hands and wring teeth. Minor political currents can be diverted by protest, but this one is the torrent subsequent to a broken dam. It will go where it will, as the Thirties went where they would. Hold on tight.
Runner93 wrote:
You prove just how far we've fallen. I show that I still have some moral sense and I must be a troll or an idiot. Some, like you, are not only indifferent to morals, but outright against them.
i guess hate and judgement are two morals you choose to ignore.
we should have never let them damn n*****s in our army either.
Your side? How much more racist can you be? I think when Obama got in office it ended. I'm going reread the Manifesto now so I can be prepared for the new wave of classless society.