post collegiate groups and funding

Shoe companies?

Check grants.gov.

Many of these programs promote themselves as non-profits and do a lot of community service and with those ties to the community, I think they do a lot of fundraising. Whether that be money/funds directly poured into their coffers or services rendered, I don't know specifically. I'd imagine that the athletes helping out the community makes people more likely to open their doors and wallets though.

I doubt any of those clubs are funding everything you just mentioned.

The club I manage offers most of our financial support in the form of reimbursement funding (primarily for competing in meets). We generally don't pay athletes expenses up front, because we have had a lot of problems with buying plane tickets for athletes that end up not competing, or not competing for us.

We also have a contract with a shoe company that lets us help out certain athletes with shoes and gear. We are a non-profit. Sometimes we are able to hook up with local health professionals and offer discounted services to our athletes.

Anything you can do to help local athletes is awesome. I'm not really sure at what level of support you need to start worrying about the IRS, unless you want to use the donations as a tax write-off in which case you need to find/start a non-profit to funnel the money through.

elite guys can work part time (hansons- sports shops etc), get kit sponsorship, work at running training camps (fee income generation)and offer personal training advice to runners for a charge.

Just a few ideas- good luck with your initiative, hope it works out to help decent athletes become great and rival ZAP, McMillan etc in the future!

I can speak to the Hansons-Brooks Distance Project as I was a part of things for a couple years.

Housing--Paid by Hansons (Free) we paid shared utilities

Equipment--Paid by Brooks (kit deal plus $2400 in other equipment)

Travel--Paid by Hansons or the race that we were traveling to.

Bonuses--Paid by Brooks

Massage--Paid by Hansons

Health Insurance--Paid by Hansons

Podiatric, Physical Therapy, Orthapedic (team Dr.), and Chiropractic--All are donated services.

The Bros. fund much of it through the stores but do not accept any charity from USATF or the NYRR.

what's your day job ?

Do the Hansons charge the runners for coaching?

How do you know it doesn't add up when you don't know what they make in their retail stores?

Hansons are the only group that pays for everything. If you want to start a training group do NOT use Hansons as a model unless you are willing to lose 6 figures a year. Props to Hansons for making that commitment, but most groups get by on far less.

actually as a former ZAP athlete I can tell you that everything above was paid for me as well for 5 years in NC. a monthly salary, Full travel including meal $, great health insurance which included everything from dental to obgyn for our ladies, all housing + all utilities, all meals at the ZAP Center, bonuses for time and placings, 6-8 week winter camp in FL, massage, PT. I had to work a bit at the ZAP Center but I will say all which was promised me was delivered. I know that McMillan has a similar deal I have heard - hats off to Hansons as well, but I assure you they are not the only group fully funding.

I think Salazar's group is also afilliated with a shoe company. Can't remember which one off hand, maybe Puma or NB?

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I think Salazar's group is also afilliated with a shoe company. Can't remember which one off hand, maybe Puma or NB?

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Really? Can't remember who Salazar is asscoiated with?

huh??

Hmmmm, could it be.....NIKE?

Since he lives in Oregon and has his office at Nike?

All his athletes wear Nike?

As for the sponsor groups, they are all great. Whispers from former Hansons say there are some downsides - like restrictions on dating, mandatory 4 hour wake up before every race, etc.

I think the key for most of the groups with the better funding is they are linked to a shoe store or other type of business that generates revenue and can give the athletes flexible jobs with benefits.

Anybody know what kind of jobs the ZAP athletes work/worked?

How does a 14:00 type in college fair financially if he chooses to pursue running?

It seems theres some money to be made on the road, and these teams seem to cut down expenses.

Is it safe to say that you can do decently well (maybe net 20-30k), particularly considering you might have few expenses?

Or am I delusional?

Mick Lovin wrote:

run run run wrote:

I think Salazar's group is also afilliated with a shoe company. Can't remember which one off hand, maybe Puma or NB?

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Really? Can't remember who Salazar is asscoiated with?

huh??

Hmmmm, could it be.....NIKE?

Since he lives in Oregon and has his office at Nike?

All his athletes wear Nike?

As for the sponsor groups, they are all great. Whispers from former Hansons say there are some downsides - like restrictions on dating, mandatory 4 hour wake up before every race, etc.

You're a bit tightly wound. Didn't quite pick up on that joke, did you.

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