Vin Lananna And Connie Price-Smith on the USATF Gravy Train again !

Vin actually gets things done for the sport. Hosting a couple of OT--and he gets a trip to London. Seems like he is a good person to put in the position. Tell me which coach you would put in this position--that has done as much as Vin?

He can actually solve problems for the athletes and advocate when things might not go to form administratively.

Those two do-nothings don't deserve squat from USATF. USATF should just get an unpaid/uncompensated volunteer to serve as Concierge then take the money for perks and pass it out as prize money for the elites. There's hundreds of groupies and fanboys who will do it for no money at all. This a Nike corruption again. What a crooked bunch of louses at Indy.

Hosting a couple of OT

Who's been telling lies ? Tom Jordan got 1,000 local meth addicts, Harley bikers, and Caucasoid tree aboriginals from the Eugene Mission on Eisenhower and St Vincent De Paul's Service Center on Four Corners for that little shit meet. Tom Jordan does that every year for every Prefontaine meet. Plus, only 20k fans can fit in that puny stadium. 2000 OT Sacramento got more fans.

I'm not sure what you're smoking, but I'd take a break. I've been to many Oly Trials, including Sac Town and Eugene, and I'd take Eugene any day of the week.

"Who's been telling lies ? Tom Jordan got 1,000 local meth addicts, Harley bikers, and Caucasoid tree aboriginals from the Eugene Mission on Eisenhower and St Vincent De Paul's Service Center on Four Corners for that little shit meet. Tom Jordan does that every year for every Prefontaine meet. Plus, only 20k fans can fit in that puny stadium. 2000 OT Sacramento got more fans."

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Hey Jerkoff, are you still sniffing the same stuff that you were 15 years ago? I'm sure that partaking of your favorite recreational experience has enhanced your memory and strengthened those limited brain cells. How is the air in Sacramento tonight?

2004 OT Sac had more fans, the weather was good, and Sac has a major airport. Overall Sac was a better experience.

What gravy train? With the exception of padding a resume (neither needs), there is no financial award. On the contrary, the get to be away from their families for a month, miss the beginning of school for their teams. Instead, they spend their time timing our athletes who may not have personal coaches, making sure they have routes to run, organized practice times, coordinate travel and airport pick-ups, arrange housing and transportation for team, facilitate personal coaches, and any other grunt work in order for their athletes to perform as well as possible. The assistant coaches get to have an even greater time on the "USATF gravy-train").

Grow up.

Theyr'e trading favors and junkets for votes. It's the same old story of perk swapping between USATF, BAA, NYM, ER, etc. It's cheaper to use rich volunteers for cermenonial US team jobs who pay all their own travel and hotel expenses, then use the savings for elite prize monies.

Here is a legend in someone's own mind: "2004 OT Sac had more fans, the weather was good, and Sac has a major airport. Overall Sac was a better experience"

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Apparently you weren't at Sacramento in 2004. For all but certain popular sections of the meet, there were thousands of empty seats. At least at Eugene, people watched most of the OT competitions. At Sacramento, it was hot as hell miserable. At Eugene, for the first two days, it reminded me of miserable hot Sacramento. The rest of the week was near perfect comfortable weather. The volunteers at Sacramento were both rude and angry at the way they were being treated by the meet management (try a $5 chit for lunch, and it wouldn't even buy one of their $6.50 mystery meat burgers). At Eugene, I couldn't believe how friendly and helpful all the volunteers were compared to what we put up with four years earlier in Sacramento. At Sacramento you couldn't see half the meet because of the terrible sight lines. This is a football stadium and not built for track meets. Eugene was...well Hayward Field in unmatchable. I could go on, but anyone who says the 2004 OT's were comparable to 2008 in Eugene, was not at the meets.

Sacratomatoe is a cool town with plenty of restaurants and hotels. It was nice and hot for everyone. The people were wonderful. We went rafting on the river, visited SF a bit, UC Berkeley, and Stanford, but didn't have time to get to Santa Cruz.

Eugene is a disgusting hell hole enjoyed by anthropology researchers investigating the last caucasoid aboriginal savages in the Oregon forests. The ushers were mostly meth addicts and ex-cons that Vin got cheap from the free Union Mission. The stadium is small and only held 20,000 seats. The pollen choked Rupp and 1/3rd of the athletes. The hotels and restaurants suck. The fans from out of town were nice to talk with, but the locals were all fatties, meth addicts, tree people, Goths, and motorcycle gangsters. We quickly got sick of that place and couldn't wait to get out of town. But theres no public bus to the Eugene Airport. Only a little piss hole town doesn't have public transportation to the airport, and that's exactly what Eugene is, a little piss hole town.

D1 coach jalous wrote:

What gravy train? With the exception of padding a resume (neither needs), there is no financial award. On the contrary, the get to be away from their families for a month, miss the beginning of school for their teams. Instead, they spend their time timing our athletes who may not have personal coaches, making sure they have routes to run, organized practice times, coordinate travel and airport pick-ups, arrange housing and transportation for team, facilitate personal coaches, and any other grunt work in order for their athletes to perform as well as possible. The assistant coaches get to have an even greater time on the "USATF gravy-train").

Grow up.

nailed it.

What gravy train? With the exception of padding a resume (neither needs), there is no financial award. On the contrary, the get to be away from their families for a month, miss the beginning of school for their teams. Instead, they spend their time timing our athletes who may not have personal coaches, making sure they have routes to run, organized practice times, coordinate travel and airport pick-ups, arrange housing and transportation for team, facilitate personal coaches, and any other grunt work in order for their athletes to perform as well as possible. The assistant coaches get to have an even greater time on the "USATF gravy-train").

Obviously you've never been on a WC team.

OK, I'll bite. Would you please explain the financial advantage to being selected for a national team position?

If you're talking about the unform, or the trip, etc I would hope you are kidding or at least trolling.

It's a junket, you lying ass ! Quit trying to make taking quid pro quo bribery a real job. There's no work for them involved.

A Perk Recipient wrote:

It's a junket, you lying ass ! Quit trying to make taking quid pro quo bribery a real job. There's no work for them involved.

Wow! So is anybody making sense on this thread? How can asking a question be construed as lying? Who said it was a job? Where is the bribery you speak of? Again, where is the financial advantage? I could care less who they pick to head the team, Connie and Vin seem like logical choices and both are good at what they do. Is it jealousy that has your knickers in such a knot? If I were you I'd stop the crystal meth and go back to smoking just plain dope.

You jackass ! Quit acting like you don't know what's going on. The USATF bigwigs should be awarding prize money to the team and not jerking off coaches to keep their positions.

A Perk Recipient wrote:

You jackass ! Quit acting like you don't know what's going on. The USATF bigwigs should be awarding prize money to the team and not jerking off coaches to keep their positions.

Huh? I don't see how the two equate.

A Perk Recipient wrote:

You jackass ! Quit acting like you don't know what's going on. The USATF bigwigs should be awarding prize money to the team and not jerking off coaches to keep their positions.

Name calling always helps make your weak points so much more convincing. You need to be educated before you can even be argued with but that is a waste of time...these coaches are glorified travel agents and gofers and it is best to have people who know what the ins and outs of international travel and competition are about - USATF has plenty to work on to improve but you are barking up the wrong tree here.

Now that I'll agree with.