Going along with the whole line of thinking that criticizes schools like Fayetteville-Manlius for having great HS teams but not producing good girls college runners, I have to ask this: Is there a program or programs out there that DO consistently produce good girls college runners?
It seem like a lot of good college girls were either good as individuals on mediocre teams, or they were NOT well-coached in high school, but then did well in college with better coaching.
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Saratoga... easy answer. Just look at how the runners did at NCAAs.
No school can consistently produce college runners. In HS training can beat talent. In college it is all about talent since most coaches are at least decent.
I would say Magnificant in Cleveland...
Are you serious? With all due respect, I cannot disagree more! (I say that not to act like some who just post on here because they love to argue. Let's discuss this.)
You're right that in hs good and/or consistent training can beat talent that isn't properly developed. And we all know or have read about cases where hs coaches have overtrained girls, who just don't have much left when they get to college.
But that doesn't explain the huge number of good female hs runners who fail to succeed, or even continue to improve, once they get to collegiate running. If it was all about talent, why do so many talented hs girls disappear from the radar?
Your comment may be a bit more true on the male side, but on the female side, I am more convinced all the time that the number of college coaches who really get it is actually pretty small.
saratoga, are you kidding me? you are forgetting all of their girls who disappeared into oblivion.
Saugus produces great collegiate runners.
- Shannon Murakami's at UCLA and ran 16:27 in the 5k and was an individual qualifier for D1 nationals last fall.
- Annie Randall is at Long Beach State and ran in the mid 35s for 10k and sub-17:30 in the 5k I believe.
- Nina Moore was the california junior college state champ in xc and ran incredibly well for Long Beach State this fall.
- Brianna Jauregui has been a huge contributor towards Glendale College's success during the last two years.
- Toccoa Kahovec is at Cal Lutheran and was an individual qualifier for D3 nationals this fall.
- Amber Murakami is also at UCLA with her older sister and was a scorer for her team all season.
Saratoga also has/had some incredible runners in college, most notably Nicole Blood.