Unreal performance by FM, 27 points, establishing a new point total. Saratoga 2nd (104 points) and Saugus 3rd (117 points)
FM put 4 girls ahead of the #1 for Saugus (mahoney who ran a great race after getting spiked)
2nd year in a row and 4th time overall that New York girls have gone 1-2 at NXN.
Has an F-M girl or guy done anything in College? That Stotan sh** don't play in the NCAA. York of the East say I.
Just another FM hater who cant give credit where credit is due. The Stotans have won 5 straight NXN championships, you should give them some credit kid.
return 6 of top 7 too
People on Tracktalk think I am arrogant and say I am a playa hayta, but its not true. I use big words and hammer the sacred cows like Aris and Lananna. Troof.
Hard to dispute that. But maybe they are always overachieving in HS? Seems to me they have an awesome coach, as evidenced by the boys team finishing 2nd today? Maybe its just a coaching thing, I dunno.
Orthodice wrote:
Has an F-M girl or guy done anything in College? That Stotan sh** don't play in the NCAA. York of the East say I.
Saugus Fans are just a bunch of clowns, they talked them up so much, they never even had an outside shot of beating FM
That score is unbelievable at this level.
If these girls are like all of Aris's previous championship teams, they will soon retire from competitive running in about 6 months. Good long-term plan coach!
hahah yes they did get a little ahead of themselves trying to compare a spread from Woodward to Bowdoin and saying that their 1-5 was better then FM's (Not even close to being accurate!)
Saugus is a great team witha great coach, but to many of thier fans come up with excuses year after year.
Congrats to Saratoga as well, 2nd for the 2nd year in a row and 3rd time in NXN along with a championship and 3rd and 4th finish in their 6 trips to Portland.
They were crazy delicious out there. Got to hand it to father and son coaches of this dynasty. They were far better than the 2005 Saratoga Girls (former greatest team ever)were. Just amazing score.
Show me a college coach as good at coaching as Aris, and I'll show you a coach who can develop FM runners after HS. And recruiting doesn't count as coaching.
themanontherun wrote:
Show me a college coach as good at coaching as Aris, and I'll show you a coach who can develop FM runners after HS. And recruiting doesn't count as coaching.
Coach Ma employed a similar training philosophy as Aris, and he was quite sucessful. perhaps FM runners should move to China after graduation.
I am a lowly high school coach, coaching what would be considered a poor program by most of the lets run "experts". But, I have sent a number of kids to college, getting money. No Olympic Trials competitors, just decent runners who love the sport.
So far, two of them have shown steady improvement after high school and they go to NAIA and D3 schools.
The D1 scholarship kids have gotten injured and some have quit the sport all-together.
I always questioned their summer training- there were workouts like repeat 1000's or 800's, even hill workouts.
I remember in the 70's talking to college runners who were told to do up to 100 mpw in the summer- just running, no workouts.
I even had one coach ask me what I did different because the kid showed very little improvement after high school and was always injured after having NO injuries in high school.
Who knows? Maybe Aris is a great coach and the college people aren't as good.
No, it is well known that FM uses EPO. They just get away with it since high schools will never test for it.
Source????
just incredible performances by the mens and womens teams. it really does seem quite impossible to score that low. do they recruit? it is quite mind blowing
superspeed wrote:
hahah yes they did get a little ahead of themselves trying to compare a spread from Woodward to Bowdoin and saying that their 1-5 was better then FM's (Not even close to being accurate!)
Saugus is a great team witha great coach, but to many of thier fans come up with excuses year after year.
FM ran an amazing race. Pretty sure this was the best race ever by any team against a national field.
But you were the one who said I was wrong when I pointed out the Saugus 23-second spread was misleading. And I don't remember all these people saying that the Saugus 1-5 was better than the FM 1-5. What some might have said was that the Saugus spread was better. Which it was - but that doesn't matter much when the FM #1-2-3 are about 30 seconds faster than the Saugus #1.
Thats because their aren't many national fields. FM is great, there have been better in NY. I'm not positive this is their best performance.
CA Guy wrote:
superspeed wrote:hahah yes they did get a little ahead of themselves trying to compare a spread from Woodward to Bowdoin and saying that their 1-5 was better then FM's (Not even close to being accurate!)
Saugus is a great team witha great coach, but to many of thier fans come up with excuses year after year.
FM ran an amazing race. Pretty sure this was the best race ever by any team against a national field.
But you were the one who said I was wrong when I pointed out the Saugus 23-second spread was misleading. And I don't remember all these people saying that the Saugus 1-5 was better than the FM 1-5. What some might have said was that the Saugus spread was better. Which it was - but that doesn't matter much when the FM #1-2-3 are about 30 seconds faster than the Saugus #1.
It was def said on a thread that got removed. I dont remember who said it but someone said that the Saugus 1-5 was better then the FM 1-5. And exactly what i said in that post was what if 3 Fm girls finish ahead of the Saugus #1 and 2 others right behing her? what would that spread mean then? And today FM put 4 girls ahead of the Saugus #1.
A lot of people had no clue what they were talking about in that Saugus of FM thread.
I said all along that comparing the spread at Woodward meant nothing when talking about a performance at Bowdoin. They are two totally different courses
FM ran a unreal race and as expected won. Saratoga also ran a great race and got 2nd for the 2nd year in a row.
I know Saugus is prob very upset but they had a great season, i believe their best season ever. They should not hang their heads.