Vin says, "We look at the cross country season as a way to prepare for the track season. We can't focus our attention solely on cross country. It needs to be within the context of our track and field team."...Pre says, "You are out of your mind VIN!"
SHOCKING!!! Vin is downplaying Oregon's role as a standard of excellence for cross country, a completely different beast than track. You play to win the game...right?
The simple truth to this is that this has been been the Oregon philosophy since Bowerman. The move to include a more extensive XC season is fairly recent in the grand scheme of time. Oregon's involvement with more indoor T&F is also very new.
Vin is a developer of future Nike athletes. The main stage for Nike's athletes to compete in is track.
Interesting that Oregon has not won a track title since 1985. I had the pleasure of standing with the coach and having a in-depth talk at Nike Pre-Nationals. I am personally shocked those words would leave his mouth. Vin, you are the coach of the greatest distance program in US history. Perhaps not the most titles, perhaps not the deepest, but those moments that Oregon has been on top it has been equal to a dozen Arkansas championships. Coach to win and when you don't win, coach to win!
XCWildcard wrote:...the greatest distance program in US history...those moments that Oregon has been on top it has been equal to a dozen Arkansas championships.
Keep sipping on that Kool-Aid!
The Money is in track and field, not cross country.
But, you need a well-rounded track team like Arkansas, not just 4 outstanding athletes, such is the case in Oregon. If they really even have 4.
Like I said, Vin is a developer of Nike athletes. The ones who could contribute to a team championship but will never be elite professionals do not matter. Guys like Rupp and Wheating matter.
xnec wrote:
Like I said, Vin is a developer of Nike athletes. The ones who could contribute to a team championship but will never be elite professionals do not matter. Guys like Rupp and Wheating matter.
Vin is a big overrated cry baby.
xnec wrote:
Like I said, Vin is a developer of Nike athletes. The ones who could contribute to a team championship but will never be elite professionals do not matter. Guys like Rupp and Wheating matter.
Name the athletes Vin has developed. He surely did not develop Rupp or Puskedra. Who has he developed? That's a false statement. He is a coach and for whatever reason Oregon chose him over Pat Tyson and others. I met the man, talked with him...like I said, Vin, what the heck?
[quote]XCWildcard wrote:
[quote]xnec wrote:
Name the athletes Vin has developed. He surely did not develop Rupp or Puskedra. Who has he developed?quote]
Puskedra, Centro, A.J., Wheating, Hasay, Blood, numerous national championship teams...please help me complete the answer to this trick question.
XCWildcard wrote:
Interesting that Oregon has not won a track title since 1985. I had the pleasure of standing with the coach and having a in-depth talk at Nike Pre-Nationals. I am personally shocked those words would leave his mouth. Vin, you are the coach of the greatest distance program in US history. Perhaps not the most titles, perhaps not the deepest, but those moments that Oregon has been on top it has been equal to a dozen Arkansas championships. Coach to win and when you don't win, coach to win!
Oregon women won indoors in 2010 and the men won the indoor title in 2009.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
XCWildcard wrote:Interesting that Oregon has not won a track title since 1985. I had the pleasure of standing with the coach and having a in-depth talk at Nike Pre-Nationals. I am personally shocked those words would leave his mouth. Vin, you are the coach of the greatest distance program in US history. Perhaps not the most titles, perhaps not the deepest, but those moments that Oregon has been on top it has been equal to a dozen Arkansas championships. Coach to win and when you don't win, coach to win!
Oregon women won indoors in 2010 and the men won the indoor title in 2009.
It's not very hard to have good teams with all the talent he gets. Can he develope anyone?
Vin seemed to be all about cross-country when they won in 2007 and 2008.
Wheating, Centro, Acosta have done well under him. After finishing 3rd Monday, Puskedra may be back in the game.
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