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beat Kitwara(2nd) by 27 seconds...
beat Kitwara(2nd) by 27 seconds...
Leonard
obviously no testing.
bump. Guy has 26:57 and 12:58 track prs.
The flea wrote:
obviously no testing.
There needs to be testing if they're going to ratify the world record. In any case, I'm sure Komon is part of the IAAF testing pool.
downhill
no testing
short course
etc
Before speaking, you need to know:
a) The course is one lap, with start and finish in the same point
b) It's a must for recognizing the validity of the record to have doping control with both blood and urine tests. So, the situation is very simple : no test, no record, and, since the WR as announed before the race, I think the doping control is complete.
Of course, a record is a record, but not underestimate the fact that, during the last 2-3 years, on the track the event practically disappeared. So, 26'44" (that in any case is a great time) means something ecceptional, but there are more than 10 athletes able, in the past, to run under that time on track
Renato Canova wrote:but there are more than 10 athletes able, in the past, to run under that time on track
however
1) road courses, even if same start/finish are invariably never completely flat like a track, with uphills/downhills
this is never as fast as an absolutely flat 400m track
at least 5 - 10s difference to the track here
2) no wabbit to draft him to 1/2 way ( it was ? a solo run )
that's another 10s+ there
on a track, this is more like a
26'25 - 26'30 time
which brings it to more like 2 or 3 athletes ever able to run under that time
Yet another Kenya holding our bride high. Go get them fellows. It is ours for the taking
Any course in Utrecht would be fast and quite flat. You're assumptions and conversions are wrong. Some athletes are of course faster on the track, some are not. Some events are faster on the track, some are not. Good luck for example, to anyone shooting for a fast marathon, in spikes, on a 400m track.
dsrunner has the day off wrote:
Any course in Utrecht would be fast and quite flat. You're assumptions and conversions are wrong
no
they are fair value
kogo was previous wr holder at 27'01
his track pb is 26'35
Some athletes are of course faster on the track, some are not. Some events are faster on the track, some
are not
name some...
Good luck for example, to anyone shooting for a fast marathon, in spikes, on a 400m track.
& the 2"05 guys woud probably be running close to 2"03
ventolin^3 wrote:
name some...
Mark Coogan
10,000 28:23.38 '92
10K 28:13' '94
26:44 is about as fast as the guy can go. You really don't have to deconstruct it. All of your assumptions/adjustments in this case are wrong.
dsrunner has the day off wrote:
26:44 is about as fast as the guy can go. You really don't have to deconstruct it. All of your assumptions/adjustments in this case are wrong.
utter nonsense
if previous wr holder at 27'01 went 26'35-track, you are deluded enough to believe the new 26'44 wr holder can't go faster than that on the track ???
wilfredo wrote:Mark Coogan
10,000 28:23.38 '92
10K 28:13' '94
how about someone who's a household name outside his own bathroom ?
On 'the Dutch letsrun' a video of the finish and an interview, click on the picture in the main screen.
Ventolin, this is ridiculously obvious but you seem to have overlooked it: all else being the same, wouldn't a course with 4 90deg turns (this road race roughly) be faster than a course with 50 180deg turns (a standard 400m track)? Seems like that could add 10 or 15 seconds quite easily...
First time ever...world leader in a standard track distance will come from the roads. This is not a statement about Komon but about the complete lack of track 10ks (besides championship-type meets).
Oddly enough the World Leader in an event comes from the roads...
ventolin^3 wrote:
Good luck for example, to anyone shooting for a fast marathon, in spikes, on a 400m track.& the 2"05 guys woud probably be running close to 2"03
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Patently FALSE, Ventolin. There is no way in hell anyone could run 42.2K on a track IN SPIKES and run faster than what is currently done. For all their help on the track, spikes would most certainly lead to greater fatigue over the long run. There is no way anyone is running 2:03 for a marathon on a track in spikes, unless that same someone is the first guy to run under 2:00:00 for a legit marathon.