ventolin^2 wrote:
moron
i asked you to list snell's splits modified for
1) 1s/lap for grass to synthetic
You're a cock! Snell's 3:54.1 Mile WR WASN"T run on grass but on cinders. Get your facts straight old man.
ventolin^2 wrote:
moron
i asked you to list snell's splits modified for
2) 1.08 / (1609.344/1500) conversion for laps in a mile to those in a 1500
You can ask what you like, I'll write what I want.
There's no need to convert, I was comparing two Mile races you imbecile.
ventolin^2 wrote:
as for coe's splits in his mile, you seem to be clueless to fact that he went off at 3'41 pace, but he ran middle 2 laps at 3'53 pace allowing him to recover from 1st lap & regain energy for a last lap push
work out snell's equivalent middle laps ( using 2s knocked off for 1) )
Idiot. Why should I knock off 2 secs when there is no scientific evidence that this track was 1 sec slower per lap. This is your opinion and nothing more.
Why take the middle 2 laps? Why not the last 2? You can slice it and dice it whatever way you want, but the fact born out by the stats are indisputable. Snell couldn't maintain the pace.
Snell's 440yd laps were:- 56.6, 57.8 (1:54.4), 60.2 (2:54.6) & 59.5
His middle 880 was 1:58 (which is 3:56 pace), so he was actually allowing himself to recover and regain energy for the last lap.
Coe's mid 880 was 1:56.6 (3:53 pace). If you want to go with the 1 sec a lap conversion, then Snell's mid 880 is marginally faster at 1:56.0. But then Coe's initial lap was slightly faster, so they effectively cancel themselves out.
Now lets look at how they finished.
Snell's last 880 was 1:59.7. Lets humour you and take away 2 secs for no scientific reason and give him 1:57.7. That's 3:55.4 Mile pace for our 3:48 man.
Coe's last 880 was 1:54.0 ~ 3:48 Mile pace. That's over 7 secs for the full Mile faster than Snell on a hypothetical synthetic track.
But lets look at the last 100m. Snell ran the last 100m in 15.3. That's 61.2 400m pace. Take off you're bleeding second and it gives him 60.2 pace. He was slowing down badly!
Coe's last 100m in his 3:47 was 13.1. That's 52.4 400m pace. It was the fastest 100m segment of his run. He was speeding up over the last lap and held something back for the last 100m. He wasn't going "all out" over the last lap, as he was primarily in a race not a solo record attempt. The crap pacing on the first 3 laps put paid to that.
So based on the fact that Snell went out slower, and finished much slower, while running a comparable mid section, you want people to believe that this 3:54 run (3:50.1 - just to shut you up) showed he could have run 3:48 that day!?
Lets humour you again. Lets give Snell every break possible:- pristine synthetic track, 1 sec per lap conversion, great weather conditions, three opening laps of 57.0 apiece. He is able to run the last lap in 57 and clock 3:48. Great.
If that is the case, then with the same courtesies afforded to him, Coe would have been running 3:44.