Maybe they should have sent Semenya to Russia to have an actual woman take the gender test.
Maybe they should have sent Semenya to Russia to have an actual woman take the gender test.
so you're comparing Caster Semenya to LeBron James? yeah, that sounds about right.http://z.hubpages.com/u/1599774_f520.jpghttp://www.deseretnews.com/photos/midres/997132.jpg
lickitysplit wrote:
Wow, it is sad that so many people on this site and in the world have so little ability to understand situations, much less the capacity for empathy.
Yes, perhaps she did not have a period and is a little masculine, but she has a vagina and has been raised as a female. Because she's strong for a woman, she should have known that she was a male and thus a cheater? Should we classify people, such as Lebron James, who have clear genetic advantages as cheaters? Maybe tell them that, actually, they are not truly human (I mean, compare Lebron James to your average chubby, 5'8" male).
A woman's life is being ruined and a bunch of Let's Run losers who insist on calling her an "it" and preaching about justice, etc, see this is as her own fault because she should have known that she couldn't have been so good unless she was a man. Wow, I hope none of you are in positions of responsibility.
vipan is a weirdo
faux defence of some strange stranger
bumps his own threads
Please, PLEASE TELL ME that the announcer didn't say that after Caster crossed the finish line? Caster Semenya is a woman with a birth defect and being a man isn't even the issue. How ignorant of some people.
The one voice we have not heard - Caster's
September 20 2009 at 05:50PM
By Karyn Maughan and Lebogang Seale
Caster Semenya has a ritual she performs every day.
The athlete sits down and plays a recorded news segment broadcast after her 800m victory in Berlin. She watches herself powering ahead of other runners, winning the race and receiving her gold medal.
And then she repeats the announcer's words, which follow the images of the proudest moment of her life, with the exact speed and tone with which he utters them:
'I know everything that is being written about me'
"But is she a man or is she a woman? But is she a man or is she a woman?"
Caster's ritual is thought to be part of the therapy that she is receiving to deal with the ugly row she finds herself at the centre of.
Amid accusation, political rhetoric and denials about the humiliating sex tests she was subjected to locally and in Berlin, Semenya's is the only voice which has not been heard.
Contacted by Weekend Argus following her former coach Wilfred Daniels's revelations that she had been forced to undergo an invasive two-hour sex examination at a Pretoria clinic, during which her genitals were photographed, she first pretended to be someone else.
Then she said: "I know everything that is being written about me. I know that people have made conclusions about me but it doesn't bother me. I am alone where I am and okay. Everything is sharp, but sorry, I can't talk, bra (brother)."
While family and friends say she is coping with the furore, those who have seen her private behaviour have expressed concern about the pressure she is enduring.
"She talks about all the races she wants to participate in, what she will do with her hair when she takes part ... but she is taking strain, she is staying away from people," one source said.
Daniels is adamant that, if she is required to, Semenya will "say exactly what happened to her".
But Athletics South Africa boss Leonard Chuene, under fire for allegedly lying about the sex tests Semenya underwent in South Africa and Berlin, says he will not ask her for her version of what happened.
"I can't go there. I am going to respect the privacy of this young girl," he said.
Weekend Argus has established that the International Athletics Association Federation has yet to communicate directly with Semenya.
IAAF sources maintain the body has no desire to strip Semenya of the medal or money she won in Berlin, even if her victory is challenged by claims that she had a hormonal advantage over her fellow competitors.
While the IAAF has maintained that Australian media reports that Semenya was intersex were not strictly accurate, it is understood she will require medical treatment to correct her abnormally high testosterone levels.
"If she has the treatment she requires, there is no reason why she can't compete in the future ... because any hormonal advantage that she may have will have been removed," a source said.
Weekend Argus has confirmed that the IAAF is in possession of devastating e-mails between itself and ASA team doctor Dr Harold Adams, which strongly belie Chuene's previous accusations that Semenya was duped into sex tests by the IAAF.
Chuene is expected to face tough questions from Parliament's sports portfolio committee about his and the ASA's handling of the affair.
Within hours of this pending grilling being announced, Chuene and the ASA were calling for a commission of inquiry on the issue so that they could "clear the ASA's name".
Sources close to Sports Minister Makhenkesi Stofile maintain his "first priority" is Semenya's wellbeing.
Stofile on Thursday met the legal team that will represent Semenya and includes human rights lawyer Brian Curran and Oscar Pistorius's attorney Gregg Nott. The team is expected to contact lawyers for the IAAF this week.
Meanwhile, as she waits for the results of the medical tests that have been splashed across newspapers around the world, Semenya will continue studying for her exams and assuring all her friends and family that she is "okay".
And, once a day, the athlete will play that recording.
"But is she a man or is she a woman?" she'll ask
The authorities in South Africa are so corrupt that this issue is only parenthetically about Caster Semenya. THIS for a South African paper:
http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/article121944.eceChuene 'treated Caster as a pawn'
Athletics boss knew of questions about Semenya's gender
Sep 20, 2009 12:10 AM | By WERNER SWART
Leonard Chuene is a liar who was willing to sacrifice a young woman's future for a gold medal.
KICK THEM OUT!
VIPAM wrote:
The outcome of the IAAF decision on Caster Semenya retaining her Gold medal won't be declosed until November but it seem -fans, athletes, and various media organizations- some have already cast their unwanted judgement.
Enough to the point where a human being rights have been violated and now poses a threat great enough to cause the Lady Caster Semenya to contemplate doing something harmful to herself. First and foremost Miss Semenya is a human being and her rights to privacy in regards to a medical condition has been savagely destroyed and her psyche as well. Should she keep her medal: I don't know but I do know that justice in handling the case was so absurd that IAAF should have a civil suit against them by Caster Semenya's organization.
PLEASE SHOW CASTER SEMENYA the same compassion you would want if this was happening to you or someone you loved!!!!
So basically you want athletics to be dominated by dopers and female athletics to be dominated by men?
Caster seems alright to me btw, very defiant as is her right to be. Don't project 21st American 'male' snowflake personalities on to African 'females'.
Coevett wrote:
VIPAM wrote:
The outcome of the IAAF decision on Caster Semenya retaining her Gold medal won't be declosed until November but it seem -fans, athletes, and various media organizations- some have already cast their unwanted judgement.
Enough to the point where a human being rights have been violated and now poses a threat great enough to cause the Lady Caster Semenya to contemplate doing something harmful to herself. First and foremost Miss Semenya is a human being and her rights to privacy in regards to a medical condition has been savagely destroyed and her psyche as well. Should she keep her medal: I don't know but I do know that justice in handling the case was so absurd that IAAF should have a civil suit against them by Caster Semenya's organization.
PLEASE SHOW CASTER SEMENYA the same compassion you would want if this was happening to you or someone you loved!!!!
So basically you want athletics to be dominated by dopers and female athletics to be dominated by men?
Caster seems alright to me btw, very defiant as is her right to be. Don't project 21st American 'male' snowflake personalities on to African 'females'.
This thread is from 2009 when it all started. Couldn't have been that upset, spent the next decade taking the piss out the sport and making millions.
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