Why did Western, and not Eastern civilization emerge as the world's dominant civilization?

"western" ideals are dominant. As other countries seek to emerge from the darkness, they join us in our western-style progression

The scourge of White Imperialism remains in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, and in the United States itself. Millions of Black men are politcal prisoners held in gulags across the U.S. Dozens of Black Men are executed on the streets each day by hired U.S. Government thugs. 12 million Palestinians have been incarcerated in Ghettos and Death Camps since the 1940s. Iraq and Afghanistan are victims of U.S. White Racism must be defeated and humanity liberated so that mankind can progress beyond the sickness of the United States and the west.

Do you think it's funny that for every headstone at a VA Cemetary, 10,000 victims worked thier fingers to the bone and many died and sacrificed themselves to kill that White Racist war criminal from the U.S. Billions of soldiers and citizens in places like China, Palestine, Vietnam, Cambodia, Somalia, Afghanistan, Japan, Vietnam, Iraq, Mexico, Laos, etc. worked tirelessly for centuries to kill those U.S. bastards and put them in their graves in the VA Cemetary to save their countries from White Imperialism and Racism. Never forget this lesson you have learned today. Remember this lesson each time you drive by or visit a VA Cemetary.

Do you think it's funny that for every headstone at a VA Cemetary, 10,000 victims worked thier fingers to the bone and many died to kill that White Racist war criminal from the U.S. Billions of soldiers and citizens in places like China, Palestine, Vietnam, Cambodia, Somalia, Afghanistan, Japan, Vietnam, Iraq, Mexico, Laos, etc. worked tirelessly for centuries to kill those U.S. bastards and put them in their graves in the VA Cemetary to save their countries from White Imperialism and Racism. Never forget this lesson you have learned today. Remember this lesson each time you drive by or visit a VA Cemetary.

Because of Jesus.

pennywise de clown wrote:

Read "Guns, Germs, and Steel" by Diamond. Good book.

Mr. Diamond is an avowed Marxist who hates Western Civilization. He and others of his ilk - who claim to be non-white amongst 'their own' - always come up with bizarre theories to disparage the West, to make any success or positive influences from the West seem to be merely 'accidents' or some such crap, trying to make us think that nothing good came from the West until post 1965, when his group of hypocritical haters took control of large areas of the US government. But like everything else, control is temporary, and they will lose their grip as conditions in the West worsen due to their arrogant, misguided policies that never work in the real world.

People get too wrapped up in "IQ". Not all areas of intelligence are measured in IQ tests, although what is measured in the tests is measured well. While Asians have high visuospatial ability on average compared with Caucasians, which can aid in computation, their verbal/analytical reasoning skills are on average below that of Caucasians. Some feel that peoples with a more even balance between verbal/analytical and visuospatial skills have advantages in problem recognition and creativity. It's interesting to note that in mathematics, while a high percentage of Asians do well, of those that pursue mathematics as a career, almost 98% go into applied mathematics. Something to ponder.

Mr. Diamond and his friends are best summed up in a book called "The Culture of Critique" by Dr. Kevin MacDonald. Mr. MacDonald had to endure being called "racist" and "anti-Semitic" by Diamond and others, who turned out not to have read the book. The book isn't racist at all, just a clinical examination of people like Mr. Diamond who critique all others while not being able to handle being put under the microscope themselves. These people seem to have a very high level of self-deception, in many cases they believe, to a point, the disingenuous drivel they put forth as scholarship. In many other cases, they are being purposely deceptive.

In the end, the East simply stagnated for many years. The silly theories of "strong central governments" etc are merely excuses that don't stand up to scrutiny. Whether the mindset is a function of culture or the culture is a function of an inborn mindset is up for debate. At the moment, with anti-Western academic frauds controlling most of what is published and in fact taught in American Universities, the West will continue to slide until the inevitable collapse of the current system.

If you don't think there's behind the scenes manipulation of scholarship, and ethnic favoritism in publishing, try to have a book published. If you are of a certain background, you will be aided every step of the way. If you are not, you had better make sure your work is critical, negative toward the pre-1965 US or you will be SOL with the mainstream publishing houses, academic and otherwise.

Only one word is required to answer this question:

Alexander

When Alexander toppled the Persian empire, the balance of power shifted from the east to the west and the pendulum has never swung back in the opposite direction, though it came awfully close, but Islamic and Mongol invasions of Europe were curtailed.

How did your last auditing go?

How did your last auditing go?

the43OmiIer wrote:

And Asia is on top of the world in all aspects, except athletically.

In my experience, Asians tend to be on the bottom.

Sid Meyer wrote:

Asians supposedly have higher IQs, so why did Asia not come out on top? Why did Europeans and not Asians discover the Americas? (they were not far away after all) Why did Europeans found the best country in history rather than the Chinese or Japanese?

The asians were too busy buying up all the quick marts to bother with learning anything else.

When Alexander toppled the Persian empire, the balance of power shifted from the east to the west and the pendulum has never swung back in the opposite direction, though it came awfully close, but Islamic and Mongol invasions of Europe were curtailed.

Hah hah. Actually the Mongols raped Europe and so did Islam.

Today Turkey owns Istanbul (Alexander's old Constantinople).

Turks were civilized by Mongolia and today speak a Rural Altaic tongue.

Mongols, Japan, N.E. Asia, speak a Rural Altaic tongue as well.

Ottomans ruled the Mediterranean for centuries and instituted eastern accounting procedures to the empire which is used today across the world.

Ottomans received tribute (money and young girls) from Rome, Spain, France, Germany, etc. to prevent being slaughtered by the Ottoman army.

Like Turkey, today all of Eastern Europe and Persia, is 1/2 Mongol blooded people.

Today there are tens of millions of Islamic and Indian people settling Western Europe.

The ethnic makeup is of Western Europe is certain to be shifted to Central Asians in this very century.

Then we can all rejoice and scream:

"Islam has conquered Westerm Europe !"

the43OmiIer wrote:

Last i heard, my people discovered America, and we didnt even discover it. We were just naturally here.

What? You mean you just spontaneously materialized?

Or do you perhaps mean that your ancestors migrated across the Bering Land bridge in multiple waves, just as multiple waves of further immigration from other sources followed in subsequent years?

i think it has more to do with this theory.

the spread of "real" christianity went west from jerusalem, and even though the Romans tried to kill this new idea of hope and salvation it spread like fire.

When the Roman Catholic Church was created it was to control this fire and control hope and salvation. This is what the real "dark ages" was for. When people started to question the Church and see that the bible could be for the comman man, literacy rates shot up, everyone had a chance, and reading started from the bible.

as much as people want to talk shit and say the bible and God are a farse, reading and becoming educated can never be looked at foolishly. the bible being made readily available for common person made eduacation possible for the common person. education means revolution, revolution means advancement, advancement continues till lazyness corruption and idleness takes over.

and trust me, the "western civ" is well on its way to the death.

Sid Meyer wrote:

Asians supposedly have higher IQs, so why did Asia not come out on top? Why did Europeans and not Asians discover the Americas? (they were not far away after all) Why did Europeans found the best country in history rather than the Chinese or Japanese?

TROLL!

A lot of factors, obviously, but I think that science is the most important component. The scientific method is an invention of western minds.

19th century electro-magnetics is a great example. Early work by Hans Orstead on current and magnetic fields led to theoretical work by Faraday and Maxwell. This theoretical foundation led to the work of Westinghouse and Edison; and indeed the entire field of electrical engineering. Obviously this has completely changed human history.

This methodology, where experiments lead to mathematically-based theories, which ultimately lead to engineering applications, is a big reason that Western Civilization has dominated the world for 500 years.

It's certainly a shame that students today are taught that all cultures are equal. They are not. Cultures suffer from evolutionary dead ends just like biological systems. Some deserve to die because they are abject failures.

Students are taught that all cultures contribute equally to the world today. The fact is that some cultures send women into space; others throw acid in their faces. Some culture try to help the mentally ill, others chop of their hands and feet.

Actually, the printing of the Bible in local languages helped give rise to Christian fundamentalism, since you now had people without any sort of educational sophistication reading the Bible and taking it all literally.

The Scientific Method wouldn't have arisen in Europe had it not been for the conditions int eh Fertile Crescent which made agriculture and animal husbandry so accessible and easy to spread across Europe and Asia. If you had grown up in Australia a few hundred years ago, you would have been using Stone Age technology because that was the best the conditions allowed for.

And I wonder if you would be so accepting if a vastly more superior and civilized culture swept through your homeland with foreign diseases and obliterated your people. You wouldn't deserve to survive, would you?

that may be true, but going from not being able to read anything, and now being shown thousands and thousands of words, will improve your knowledge bass. stop being an idiot and looking at this the wrong way. it could have been shakespears plays that were printed by the millions and giving out to the common person, but it wasnt, so there my friend you are shown your ignorance.

First: Native Americans discovered America when they came across the Bering Straight however many years ago. It was significantly earlier than when Europeans colonized the New World, but you didn't evolve here.

Second: The rest of the world is more affected by our culture than we are by theirs. This would make us socially dominant. Now, I happen to rather hate our materialism and how it infects everything we do, but we have the most powerful culture in the world, regardless of its merit.

Third: How any sane person can believe we don't dominate the world athletically, I don't know. You would have to only care about one or two sports to think this.

Fourth: Politically, we are the most influential country in the world. We have the strongest military, by far. When we go into a recession, the whole bloody world goes into a recession. Now, our political system is amazingly flawed, and I would much rather have one that doesn't so outrageously favor a two party system where each party vies for power at the expense of its citizenry, and I would rather have free health care and a 35 hour work week, but if we are talking power, there is no way we aren't number one in this category.

Fifth: Technologically, we may not be the best in the world per capita, but as a whole, we lead the world more than any other country. Now, if you consider the EU as one country, you might have a case for this.

Finally, you claim Asia, ASIA, is on top of the world in all aspects. You do know Asia doesn't consist of Japan, right? China, India, Korea, THE MIDDLE EAST, all of these are a part of Asia. I honestly hope I just fell for a troll, because you got absolutely nothing right in that post.

It's sad how much today's politically correct education/indoctrination has warped the minds of so many people. Also I notice that the self-loathing that many people feel is often projected onto their entire culture.

The cracks in the political correctness scourge have begun to appear. Parents are demanding that Western Civilization courses be taught without the PC nonsense that has infected a generation of school children.

Western civilization is the greatest the world has ever known! No culture is perfect, but ours is certainly better than the others.