He has a PR of 13:22 I'm not saying its impossible but its highly unlikely he will be the next one or that he will ever go under 13:10. I don't think he will ever qualify for another WC or OC actually. Prove me wrong Evan!! I hope you do.
He has a PR of 13:22 I'm not saying its impossible but its highly unlikely he will be the next one or that he will ever go under 13:10. I don't think he will ever qualify for another WC or OC actually. Prove me wrong Evan!! I hope you do.
retard trap wrote:
Prove me wrong Evan!! I hope you do.
Lady, not only will Evan Jager prove you wrong, he will rule your roost with a vengeance.
Jag wrote:
[quote]revolution? wrote:
A couple of guys run sub 13:00 and all of a sudden we are going to have an army of Americans doing the same???
[quote]perspectivation wrote:
How is it that you don't get that Ritz was maybe #5 or 6 (maybe worse) on America's 5K list? Now that he's done this, yes, we all do expect to see the people who have proven to be at least as fit as he is to also break the mark. Teg, Solinksy, Rupp, Jager, (soon) Fernandez, the list goes on-- all these are people capable of sub 13, but it takes the "revolution" of someone breaking the mark to break through the intimidating mental barriers of the record. When Bannister and his contemporaries battled for the 4 min. mile, it took them all years. Once Bannister did it, he held the record for just weeks. I mean, for God's sake, we see this on high school track teams: one guy breaks 4:30, or 10:00, and all of a sudden there's five guys doing it. Ritz's accomplishment is, in every way, a revolution, proven by Teg's performance, and when we see an American under 27 within the next year, it'll become clear just what a revolution Ritz has started.
Very true, a few months ago I actually thought Rupp would be the one to start it next summer (simply because we didn't know Ritz would come around so quickly) but it has begun at every level.
Ritz, Webb and Hall started it at the high school level, Rupp took it further, Fernandez further. I mean when a guy like Chris Derrick (13:55? alone at arcadia, 13:29 mid season as a collegiate) gets overlooked because of what one or more of his peers are doing you have to know that the momentum has picked way up and expectiations have risen along with it.
When will Evan rule the roost? I heard he may be injured. Does anyone even know?
i dont know.
but running 3:38, 3:54, 7:41, 13:22 at 20 years old is a pretty good start to his career
i think by the time he's 28 he will have run 3:33, 3:50, 7:36, and 13:08
i think those are pretty safe predictions, considering what he's proven to be capable of doing and considering the company he's in and considering who his coach is.
even if he is injured, he has time to heal and get back in shape. just a small bump in a long road.
This guy may make for good jokes, but look at that 7:41 3k:
In IAAF tables, it is worth 1170 points, roughly.
That's equivalent to 13:11 5k, 27:35 10k, and then also nearly 1:45 flat 800m, 2:15 1k, 3:35 1500m, and 3:52 mile. The latter two are close to what he actually ran. And this guy is 20! Any prediction for his future that does not include American records is wack.
NOT injured
irun wrote:
i think by the time he's 28 he will have run 3:33, 3:50, 7:36, and 13:08
So in 8 years, even during his prime, you think he'll only cut 5 clicks off his 3K and 14 off his 5K? Very safe predictions indeed!
The jagerman will be the next best thing like rice krispie treats. He will claim the hens. I hope he can break 13 minutes in the 5k by December.
The OTC group said Jager was training for a half marathon. Is this true?
Ricky Roberts Waylan wrote:
The OTC group said Jager was training for a half marathon. Is this true?
Denzel if I know.
All I can say is that if there happens to be a roost somewhere, he's gonna damn well rule that mother licker!
Him's daddy think him's good.
Random Loser wrote:
Him's daddy think him's good.
Evan's dad is Chuck Norris. And his mom is Jason Rexing.
perspectivation wrote:
revolution? wrote:Wow. Lincoln is going to break 13:00? The guy hasn't been running for the last three years.
Solinsky.....? His pr is 13:12 and he's 25 years old basically in his prime.
And you have Rupp pegged for a 12:50? How bout he breaks 13:15 first?
A couple of guys run sub 13:00 and all of a sudden we are going to have an army of Americans doing the same??? We've certainly made some good progress over the past five years but lets not get carried away.
Should Ritz have broken 13:15 before he went 12:57???
Ritz outdoor pr for 5K is 2 seconds better than Rupp's indoor mark and Rupps indoor race was about the equivalent of running a 5K a PRE in terms of peaking and environment/conditions. If you don't understand what this means it means that while PRE is a very good meet with stiff competition it is certainly not a meet that elites hit near their peak form and the result is you get guys running 13:15-13:20 or 7:35-7:40 there while they will later hit sub 13:00 and 7:30-7:34 in Europe.
Rupp is already at the 13:00-13:05 level and next year he will peak for a european racing season. This is not a hard concept.
Some of you guys get too (understatement WAY too caught up) in PR's and miss what happens in front of your eyes when a race unfolds. Maybe you just aren't able to recognize it. Teg ran 13:11? before worlds and for myself an several others watching it was pretty clear that he was ready to go under 13:00 in the right race. I've seen enough from Rupp on various levels to convince me of the same. I guess a big one is that none of our other current greats have accomplished as much as Rupp by his age in terms of marks, range, international experience and big meet performance. In fact across the board nobody came close. Ritz may have but injuries will keep us guessing. But then again health (lack of injuries) is a big part of what it takes, which again is why Rupp stands at the top of that list to me. He might get some dings but he doesn't seem to get the dents.
Lincoln is a big who knows, but he IS a runner who has the ability to run at the 13:00-13:05 level. There is a difference between guaranteeing he will do it and knowing it's within his ability.
Solinsky, in case you've forgotten is younger than Teg and Ritz, but you're writing him off? Seriously? His 1500 and 3K marks are just shy of Teg's. Solinsky's problem is not so much ability it's being race savvy. He needs some composure and patience instead of wanting to prove it right now. He's using his energy up too early in the races. Next summer he should sit behind Teg in races and see where he ends up.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3153451955269676439&ei=ifqnSrWUB4eWqAPD76yiAw&q=prefontaine+%22dan+lincoln%22&hl=en#You don't need linear PR marks or even a recent PR to break 13:00 or 27:00 (or 12:55 or 26:50) or whatever it is. What you need is the ability, health, the right training and coaching and the right circumstances AND to take advantage of the right circumstances when they are presented. I don't mean to underscore the difficulty of it, because really all those things need to be in place and THAT's what makes it special. Look at any of the Africans resumes and you will find loads of 15-20 pr's, or 2 or 3 year droughts followed by a big mark or pr.
How do people not understand this??? It's hillarious that right after Ritz (and really Teg who hasn't run under 13:04 for several years) prove this that we go back to the same old ostrich way of thinking about American distance runner capabilities. It was refreshing to read Moores article on Wheating to see that there are still intelligent people out there who know when they see talent and capability before the actual marks have to be made. Reading this message board you start to really wonder.
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Well I don't usually dig up old threads for self gratification but I thought this would be fun given what's happened this season and what people have said about Solinsky not being on anyones radar last year (not true!) and a few people just weeks ago still saying Rupp wouldn't be breaking 13:00. Also reflected on the Wheating doubters. Sometimes hindsight is cool. Some of you might have a laugh at this and the whole thread.
jager will go sub 13 in the next 2-3 years, but the next american who will go sub 13 is rupp on august 19th 2010 in zurich.
Coach Wintertime wrote:
Evan Jager is going to RULE THE ROOST and that's a flat jack promise Pete. I'm going to call a spade a spade here and tell you how the man is going to tackle the town. UPSIDE and sitter squalled!
Ummm...word through it. The man is jacked like a pineapple cup!
Perspectivation wrote:
Solinsky, in case you've forgotten is younger than Teg and Ritz, but you're writing him off? Seriously? His 1500 and 3K marks are just shy of Teg's. Solinsky's problem is not so much ability it's being race savvy. He needs some composure and patience instead of wanting to prove it right now. He's using his energy up too early in the races. Next summer he should sit behind Teg in races and see where he ends up.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3153451955269676439&ei=ifqnSrWUB4eWqAPD76yiAw&q=prefontaine+%22dan+lincoln%22&hl=en#You don't need linear PR marks or even a recent PR to break 13:00 or 27:00 (or 12:55 or 26:50) or whatever it is. What you need is the ability, health, the right training and coaching and the right circumstances AND to take advantage of the right circumstances when they are presented. I don't mean to underscore the difficulty of it, because really all those things need to be in place and THAT's what makes it special.
How do people not understand this??? It's hillarious that right after Ritz (and really Teg who hasn't run under 13:04 for several years) prove this that we go back to the same old ostrich way of thinking about American distance runner capabilities. It was refreshing to read Moores article on Wheating to see that there are still intelligent people out there who know when they see talent and capability before the actual marks have to be made. Reading this message board you start to really wonder.
Given that this was written in September of last year, and how shocked everyone was after Solinsky banged out 26:59 at Stanford this spring, this would be very eerie if it wasn't logical!
Evan grew his hair out to attain the rock star look, but instead got the Carrot Top look.
Jager's broken at the moment. Won't even be running again until November.
The Thing Of It Is wrote:
Jager's broken at the moment. Won't even be running again until November.
A broken Jager can still rule a moose roost. Yes?