Newton Shoes Study: More Efficient

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14 years ago 08/24/2009 10:48am EDT

re: Hayduke

Hayduke wrote:
The problem with people like you is you think you understand something and pass yourself off as an expert. Save it for your dinner parties.

What is it about this message board that makes people so hostile? You make it hard for yourself to be taken seriously when you provide only harsh talk with no alternative explanation.

I never claimed to be an expert. I just had a hypothesis that was based on my own observations (I work at a running store that does video gait analysis).

If my whole argument is invalid because my first premise is incorrect, it would be helpful to know what would be the correct version of my hypothesis. If most overpronation isn't a function of the arch then what is it?

I am not a minimalist. I do not attempt to convince anyone to convert to forefoot striking. But I have seen several people who have made the conversion to forefoot striking in minimal shoes who have reduced their overpronation as a result.

So Hayduke, please let me know where I have gone astray. It would be good to know as a person who fits people in shoes everyday for a living.

14 years ago 10/05/2009 7:09pm EDT

re: and so?

Wore the Spira Stinger in the 2007 Boston Marathon ... great cushion, light .. best flat I have used.

14 years ago 10/06/2009 11:29am EDT

re: mighty porn stache

mighty porn stache wrote:
So, in reading more, they are trying to promote mid-forefoot running instead of heel striking. They actually recommend you change your gait. I've never seen a company do that before.
anyone ever use these shoes? How do they compare to other brands you've used?

And God knows you don't make money in America by telling people they have to change something they do.

14 years ago 10/06/2009 12:01pm EDT

re: Brian

Brian wrote:
mighty porn stache wrote:
So, in reading more, they are trying to promote mid-forefoot running instead of heel striking. They actually recommend you change your gait. I've never seen a company do that before.
anyone ever use these shoes? How do they compare to other brands you've used?
And God knows you don't make money in America by telling people they have to change something they do.

Wait, now your referencing God to make a point?

14 years ago 05/04/2010 8:19pm EDT

re: Brian

digging through old threads for info on newtons..

Brian wrote:
I have no doubt that the best runners in the world are mid/forefoot striking supinators. that is the most efficient way to run. What I do doubt is that a person can change their natural biomechanics because they have those biomechanics for a reason - to accommodate other physiological biomechanical issues. I have a foot that turns outward about 15 degrees when i run. If I force it straight, my knees hit together. Cycling in clipless pedals or toe clips, the bike forces that foot straight when it wants to point outward and it makes my knee hurt - if I take off the clips and let my foot point outward as it wants to, the knee pain is gone.

I have a feeling this logic may be flawed. biomechanics are altered by running shoes, at least to some extent. running barefoot, almost everyone runs landing on their mid/forefoot. I think for some reason some people are just more susceptible to have their biomechanics altered by shoes with high heel lifts, and it turns them into heel strikers. in other words, heel strikers probably don't heel strike to "accomodate other biomechnical issues," my guess is that they probably only heel strike because they are susceptible to having their form changed by shoes with high heel lifts.

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