Period. But great props for the race...I wonder what Hall could have run?
Period. But great props for the race...I wonder what Hall could have run?
idk, rupp didn't have a kick till this year. also, ritz just wan a marathon 2 month ago. I wouldn't count Ritz out.
Man Rupp runs like a p/u/s/s/y! Pre is probably choking on his beer right now. This guy is so friggin afrain to help with the pacing? No fan here. Nice Cherry Picking Rupp. Here is to you getting your arse handed to you in Europe.
WOOOOOW wrote:
Man Rupp runs like a p/u/s/s/y! Pre is probably choking on his beer right now. This guy is so friggin afrain to help with the pacing? No fan here. Nice Cherry Picking Rupp. Here is to you getting your arse handed to you in Europe.
It would be really cool if you would copy & paste this same message into every topic on this forum. Oh wait, you're already doing that.
Rupp is African?
Nice race from Ritz. When he ran 13:35, it looked like he wasn't going to be ready for this. Look at how badly Ryan Hall ran the 10k after his marathon. Yet, tonight, Ritz ran 14:12/13:46, and he was leading for much of the race.
I think it's reasonable to say Dathan is in 10K PR shape. Maybe a 27:25-30 all-out in an evenly paced race. If his fitness is still coming around, he could have Rupp by Berlin. Although Rupp could improve as well. I just want Dathan to get some vengeance for having to lead that whole thing.
V6 wrote:
...If his fitness is still coming around, he could have Rupp by Berlin...
Foolish. Ritz is a full 30 seconds off Rupp's ability right now. Rupp looked fresh when he went by Ritz. Ritz had nothing to give...who cares that he led the race.
Ritzenhein has been doing marathon training until two months ago. Rupp has been working on shorter stuff like the 1500. I would fully expect him to be able to close SIGNIFICANTLY better than Ritz, and if he couldn't, he should be extremely worried.
That's not even mentioning that Ritzenhein has always been more of a strength runner than a speed runner. He has like a 3:42 1500m PR.
V6 wrote:
That's not even mentioning that Ritzenhein has always been more of a strength runner than a speed runner. He has like a 3:42 1500m PR.
Ritz did not run an 8:10/11 2-mile with only 3:42 speed. I'm not saying that you're incorrect, I'm just saying that his 1500m pr is out of date.
Wicked Smaht wrote:
Nice race from Ritz. When he ran 13:35, it looked like he wasn't going to be ready for this. Look at how badly Ryan Hall ran the 10k after his marathon. Yet, tonight, Ritz ran 14:12/13:46, and he was leading for much of the race.
Not bashing Ritz because he ran like a champ, but Rupp split about 14:13/13:42 jogging in, untested. Rupp is out of the league of US runners right now for 10K. I do think Ritz could get near him if he focussed on track.
WOOOOOW wrote:
Man Rupp runs like a p/u/s/s/y! Pre is probably choking on his beer right now. This guy is so friggin afrain to help with the pacing? No fan here. Nice Cherry Picking Rupp. Here is to you getting your arse handed to you in Europe.
It's hard for some people to deal with the fact that Rupp keeps winning, and keeps making it look easy.
The kid is good. But he won't get any fans humiliating his competition like that without given an honest effort individually. If Rupp had gone out there today and run 27:25 like he probably could have, I really wouldn't have had a problem with it. Even if he had taken over the lead for a few laps and just slowly pulled away to win in something like 27:40 over Dathan's 27:58 it would've been fine. There is just something about him sitting on Dathan for the last eight laps when he knew he had the race won, then sprinting past him and waving to the crowd the whole time and looking back like "I don't want to run even a second faster than I need to."
As shown by the 76-ish lap in NCAAs, Rupp won't even take the pace when it gets far from honest. That's why he is terribly unlikeable. What would he do if the entire field just stopped and took a break at the 5K point? Just wait for them to resume running again?
who cares about USA Nats anymore? Rupp and Ritz are moving onto Berlin. Yeah sure Rupp got Ritz tonight, but lets stroll back down memory lane.
2007 Marathon Trials: Ryan Hall wins and Ritz is 2nd place.
2008 Olympic Marathon: Ritz is the first American to
finish while Ryan Hall is 2nd American to finish.
Knowing that the time period for these events are different (9 months in between the marathon trials and the actual olympic marathon and like a few months between USA Nats and Worlds) anything can happen. before 500 meters to go anyone could see Rupp just relaxing and waiting to dominate Ritz. even a blind man could sense what was going on. now will the same thing happen at Worlds? who knows, Ritz may end up out kicking Rupp at the end of the race and being the first American to finish or getting on the podium.
i will add this that instead of seeing these two battling it out, these two need to work together and pick off as many guys as they can because i want one of these guys to medal instead of seeing who's faster than who (not saying that one of these guys WILL indeed medal).
Overall i'm more of a Ritz fan than a Rupp fan, but if Rupp ends up getting on the medal stand (again, not saying that it indeed will happen) i'll celebrate because i'd rather see an American on the medal stand than seeing no Americans on the podium.
Seriously, Rupp... wrote:
The kid is good. But he won\'t get any fans humiliating his competition like that without given an honest effort individually. If Rupp had gone out there today and run 27:25 like he probably could have, I really wouldn\'t have had a problem with it. Even if he had taken over the lead for a few laps and just slowly pulled away to win in something like 27:40 over Dathan\'s 27:58 it would\'ve been fine. There is just something about him sitting on Dathan for the last eight laps when he knew he had the race won, then sprinting past him and waving to the crowd the whole time and looking back like \"I don\'t want to run even a second faster than I need to.\"
As shown by the 76-ish lap in NCAAs, Rupp won\'t even take the pace when it gets far from honest. That\'s why he is terribly unlikeable. What would he do if the entire field just stopped and took a break at the 5K point? Just wait for them to resume running again?
I couldn\'t have said it better. This is exactly why people don\'t like watching Rupp race, myself included.
Brahsef wrote:
Seriously, Rupp... wrote:The kid is good. But he won't get any fans humiliating his competition like that without given an honest effort individually. If Rupp had gone out there today and run 27:25 like he probably could have, I really wouldn't have had a problem with it. Even if he had taken over the lead for a few laps and just slowly pulled away to win in something like 27:40 over Dathan's 27:58 it would've been fine. There is just something about him sitting on Dathan for the last eight laps when he knew he had the race won, then sprinting past him and waving to the crowd the whole time and looking back like "I don't want to run even a second faster than I need to."
As shown by the 76-ish lap in NCAAs, Rupp won't even take the pace when it gets far from honest. That's why he is terribly unlikeable. What would he do if the entire field just stopped and took a break at the 5K point? Just wait for them to resume running again?
I couldn't have said it better. This is exactly why people don't like watching Rupp race, myself included.
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You do realize it's just a handful of you little insecure people who feel this way right? Anyone good enough to win doesn't think like this. This is loser thought. This is loser self defense mechanism kicking in to make you feel better. He has run many different ways and won, what he hasn't done in the last 7 championships (since late November)is lost no matter how much he had on his plate per race.
If he had to run each of those races the way that you weenies want, do you really think he'd have a lot left right now and for Berlin? Give me a break. Nobody has raced 7 major championships in the last 7 months that has a prayer of doing well in Berlin, let alone won them all. Add to the workload the pressure and expectations of carrying a team thru 6 of those. The only time Rupp needs to lay more out there is if he's chasing a time (not this year) or is racing guys that can outkick him.
Are you guys just blinded by jealousy?
http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?do=view&video_id=276You seem to forget Rupp's 13:18 indoor performance when that exact scenario played out and Daba forced Rupp into the lead and Rupp started dropping sub-60's from 1km out...
Rupp can race any tactic on the planet right now, but the card he keeps playing is the card to win.
Man Rupp runs like a p/u/s/s/y! Pre is probably choking on his beer right now. This guy is so friggin afrain to help with the pacing? No fan here. Nice Cherry Picking Rupp. Here is to you getting your arse handed to you in Europe.
At least Rupp is learning how to sit and kick successfully. I seem to recall Pre wasn't very good at that. Something about a fourth place finish at a big race. Can't quite recall where.
Seriously, Rupp... wrote:
The kid is good. But he won't get any fans humiliating his competition like that without given an honest effort individually. If Rupp had gone out there today and run 27:25 like he probably could have, I really wouldn't have had a problem with it. Even if he had taken over the lead for a few laps and just slowly pulled away to win in something like 27:40 over Dathan's 27:58 it would've been fine. There is just something about him sitting on Dathan for the last eight laps when he knew he had the race won, then sprinting past him and waving to the crowd the whole time and looking back like "I don't want to run even a second faster than I need to."
As shown by the 76-ish lap in NCAAs, Rupp won't even take the pace when it gets far from honest. That's why he is terribly unlikeable. What would he do if the entire field just stopped and took a break at the 5K point? Just wait for them to resume running again?
Yeah, nobody likes it when he wins. It really sucks. He really should just lead every international race he does from now on. That way when the rest of the field does the exact same thing you're complaining about him doing at least the fans can be happy he led the race until it mattered and then got dropped. Sounds like a sure fire strategy for success.
I don't understand how you people can still be fans of the sport. Do you watch races and only criticize the athletes from your own country? It's fine if an African runner sits and kicks (like they do in almost every race) but if an American runner learns how to race the way everyone who matters is racing it's suddenly a reason not to like watching the race?
It's Mindboggling to me that people don't appreciate a well run race. Rupp ran perfectly, and most importantly, he got the job done. It was a championship race so he ran in the way that gave him the best chance to win. Why would anyone do otherwise?
Who runs balls out from the start????
The rupp haters are really reaching now. Listen, it's one thing to criticize someone for not winning the big race, but to now move to start nit pick HOW they win ... it's moved from rediculous to absurd.
at this weekends local 5k go be the winner of mile 1 and watch the hobby joggers pass you over the next 2 miles. You can go home happy that even though you got your @ss handed to you, you "ran like a man."