4:00.08

you mean 4:00.18

nope, I mean 4:00.08 like I said, unless the splits are incorrect and you have better information. In any case, rupp still could've been well under 4 for the last 1600.

Derrick in 4:03 is pretty good too, considering he probably couldn't have run 4:03 at all last year.

df wrote:

Derrick in 4:03 is pretty good too, considering he probably couldn't have run 4:03 at all last year.

No, he probably could have done it or come close, just didn't get the opportunity.

yeah yeah, but they still ran 14:00+, when these same guys could have been running 40-50 seconds faster. remember, rupp ran 13:18 indoors in february. running a 5k at 67's (4:28 1600m pace) is slower than rupp's 10k pace, which means he could've kept the same pace up for twice the distance he had been running, and still kicked in a sub-60 second last lap. it's not like when pre ran 4:04 for the last mile at the '72 olympics. it was a slow pace, they finished the last 1600m fast, makes sense, no big deal. rupp belongs with the pro's mind you. wait until he runs a 13:05, running the last 1600m in 4:00 before writing home about it, if that ever happens.

and when i say 67's for 14:00+ 5k pace, i mean more like 4:30 1600m pace, which would come out to 9:00 3200m pace, 27:00 9600m pace, then add another 400m to make 10k, so that would be 28:07+. rupp's pb is 27:33 from over a year ago mind you. he could probably break the collegiate record again right now(probably not this weekend but next time he is fresh) if he wanted to.

why don't people like you (OP) recogize something remarkable like when tegenkamp runs an AR 8:07 2-mile (4:03.5+/mile)? breaking kennedy's pr by 4 seconds. i understand rupp is a remarkable, amazing athlete, but really, does running a slow-for-them race with a really fast finish make something remarkable? rono setting a 3k steeple chase wr is remarkable, which is practically the pedistal brojo's have been putting rupp on this season(with all the quotes and editorial emphasis). he may do something remarkable soon(not that he didn't in setting a 5k indoor record), but let's not jump the gun for something solinsky did or could've done 2 years ago. that's just bad form.

irun wrote:

yeah yeah, but they still ran 14:00+, when these same guys could have been running 40-50 seconds faster. remember, rupp ran 13:18 indoors in february. running a 5k at 67's (4:28 1600m pace) is slower than rupp's 10k pace, which means he could've kept the same pace up for twice the distance he had been running, and still kicked in a sub-60 second last lap. it's not like when pre ran 4:04 for the last mile at the '72 olympics. it was a slow pace, they finished the last 1600m fast, makes sense, no big deal. rupp belongs with the pro's mind you. wait until he runs a 13:05, running the last 1600m in 4:00 before writing home about it, if that ever happens.

Uhm, the dude had to like totally stop running and PUT HIS SHOE BACK ON, and the NC2A's have almost never been about time, and about FINISH.

But you are too clueless to know that, aren't you.

The dude won EVERY CHAMPIONSHIP RACE HE ENTERED THIS YEAR.

Often with minimal time between races.

He's the first person to do this in NCAA HISTORY, and the ONLY person to win the double since pre-lims were introduced in the 5k.

Oh, and he made a pizza on the way.

Not like he did anything special HE RAN ALL 3 RACES IN A SPAN OF 45 HOURS.

Racing for time would have been stupid.

And last time I checked, none of the other runners who were soloing were able to put up better times, or more competition.

I am sure you couldn't have kept up with Rupp for 600 meters of any of his races.

In short: You're a DOUCHE!

In fact, Douche of the day award for you.

Yo bud, it was like 85% humidity and Rupp did that rapping up 20,000 meters in around 65 hours averaging about 14:07 per 5K in tactical races. Not to mention he closes last night in like 2:56 and tonight in 2:55. Given the circumstances, solinsky would have been smoked tonight (2 years ago) In fact rupp kicked down solinsky 2 years ago the week before he set that 10K PR you are referring to, which yes is 2 years old. You've got to understand circumstances a bit man. Listen, no other NCAA runner could have done what rupp did indoors and no other runner could have done what he just did outdoors except maybe Rono and bigger maybe PRE.

And the big thing is, he completely shut down and went 4:00. And they only went hard for 3 laps. Imagine Rupp did go at 1600. This dude is on fire. Worlds is going to be fun. I am predicting highest white boy finish since 1991.

Don't expect much from Rupp at WCs; he actually has to face athletes better than him there. Consider the 2008 Olympic 5000:

1. Kenenisa Bekele 12:57.82 (4:56.9 last 2k)

2. Eliud Kipchoge 13:02.80 (5:01.9 last 2k)

3. Edwin Soi 13:06.22 (5:05.3 last 2k)

He hasn't a chance!

I don't mind Rupp, I don't think he's g@y, I've never had a problem with him - he's simply just not competitive internationally.

Rupp did well, however he is not good enough to do much more then previously at WC OG level.

Mottram who was almost competitive at said level was finishing 13.11 pace races in 53secs! 1.53 last 800's... Rupp is still a long way from this.

He is still beating guys largely because he is fitter. Forrest, Chelanga, McNeil, Bethke, Derrick... none of these guys are as fit and strong as Rupp, and not particularly renowned kickers.

Bekele, Choge, Songok, Kogo, Silhine.... will all be as fit as Rupp. When we see Rupp get to 1km to go with guys on a similar fitness plane, then and only then will we see how his kick stacks up!

Hater out.

GO GERMAN FERNANDEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, as much as I hate all the bashing here on the board, and your tone, you have made good points. liking rupp or not is not the question here. he had the best senior year anyone has ever had in college. he raced to win, which is what counts at the end of the day. so kudos to him, he surely did all he could to get the ducks the triple!

Booya Champ wrote:

And the big thing is, he completely shut down and went 4:00. And they only went hard for 3 laps. Imagine Rupp did go at 1600. This dude is on fire. Worlds is going to be fun. I am predicting highest white boy finish since 1991.

In what event?

The college season breaks most of our guys down. Rupp will start making a bit of an impact or at least some inroads on the circuit next year.

Arcane Denial wrote:

Don't expect much from Rupp at WCs; he actually has to face athletes better than him there. Consider the 2008 Olympic 5000:

1. Kenenisa Bekele 12:57.82 (4:56.9 last 2k)

2. Eliud Kipchoge 13:02.80 (5:01.9 last 2k)

3. Edwin Soi 13:06.22 (5:05.3 last 2k)

He hasn't a chance!

I don't mind Rupp, I don't think he's g@y, I've never had a problem with him - he's simply just not competitive internationally.

Finally some sense on these boards when will Americans realize that just because you are good at beating other Americans doesn't mean you are going to do anything against the big boys. I hope Rupp does but nothing he has done yet indicates he will.

Get Smarter, you're an idiot. He didn't COMPLETELY stop to put his shoe back on. Didn't lose much time. The race was slow anyway. Did you see the whole video?

If I were asked who is the best 10k collegiate runner over all I would say Galen Rupp. BUT, not by much. See the thing is, Rupp races to win, which is not a bad thing. However, in championship races he races like a pus*y. Share the fu*king work. Of course, Chelanga is partly to blame for his own defeat because he doesn't seem to mind doing all the work.

But all I'm saying is that Rupp does not race like the professional he is about to be after he graduates. For his talent level, he races like a pansy, hands down.

One more thing. In an honest, rabbited race, I would put money on Chalenga over Rupp. In a race like this, Chalenga is not doing twice the amount of work as Rupp during the heart of the race. Of course it would be close, but my money is on Sam.

dude you have no clue what you are talking about.

would you share the lead if you are in Rupp's situation with a 5k to be run the next day? I doubt it unless you are as big of a douche as you sound...which is probably the case.

Don't forget about Rupp's 3k at indoor nationals either, I think he proved a point during that race?

Give Rupp some time and I think he will be competitive on a national level. I'm not saying he will be an Olympic gold medalist but I think he can definitely compete within a few years.

All I'm sayin is, Rupp NEVER shares the work. Of course he wants to save his energy in those types of situations. But what about cross nationals? Although Chalenga raced like an idiot, he tried to give Rupp the go ahead a few times, and he didn't take it.

Classless. That's all I'm saying.

Random Shmo wrote:

All I'm sayin is, Rupp NEVER shares the work. Of course he wants to save his energy in those types of situations. But what about cross nationals? Although Chalenga raced like an idiot, he tried to give Rupp the go ahead a few times, and he didn't take it.

Classless. That's all I'm saying.

Rupp's share of leading came a lot as a youngster. And he got a lot of 2nds. If you were up against the bridesmaid jinx he had coming into ncaa cross i wonder if you'd do much leading, especially against the wild running that chelanga did. I seem to remember a certain indoor race, a 3000 meter one, that Rupp led wire to wire. He was capping off a 2 day triple with it.

Again, why don't you dig up some world championship and olympic final races and see how much the world leaders (and in many cases the world record holders) led prior to their victories. In some cases the PR gap between 1st and 2nd is a bigger marging than Rupp had on his competitors. Obviously Rupp's PR was actually slower than Sam in the 10K but anyone with their head on straight would credit Rupp with at least a 27:15-27:18 (Meb and Abdi have never been more fit than Rupp is now).

This whole, he didn't lead enough thing is really, really "Without Limits" high school. Yes Pre was amazing, yes he did lead from the front a lot and he did win a lot from doing it. He didn't lead much of the olympics and that which he did stung him.

Random Shmo wrote:

All I'm sayin is, Rupp NEVER shares the work. Of course he wants to save his energy in those types of situations. But what about cross nationals? Although Chalenga raced like an idiot, he tried to give Rupp the go ahead a few times, and he didn't take it.

Classless. That's all I'm saying.

Why don't you give Bekele your "class" speech?

Bekele and Pitkämäki do just enough to join the Jackpot chase

Unlike in his previous attempt in 2006, Kenenisa Bekele survived the first round of the Jackpot chase, but admitted it wasn’t an easy chore.

“I had to work really hard for the victory,” the double Olympic champion said, after managing to kick to a 13:00.76 victory, his 12th straight over the distance.

Biding his time, the Ethiopian was sixth in a relatively tight pack with two laps to go, but made his move for the front as he approached the bell. Kenyan Micah Kogo (third, 13:01.30) briefly gave him a chase, as did Abraham Chebii down the home straight, but would have to be content with second in 13:01.08.