Help me get to the ELITE level !

Training Advice/Discussion General

15 years ago 05/06/2009 3:47pm EDT

So I have been training pretty consistently at around 80mi/week for a few years and have seen great improvements in the mile (4:05) and 3k (8:05) but my performances for 5k and up are no where close to the same level...5k 14:20, 5mi 24:45. I am a year out of college so I am self-coached.

Is it as simple as consistent training (including all periodizations)?

In 'base' phases I tend to struggle running 4mi at 5:00/mi (my tempo pace according to Daniel's and McMillian) which seems pitiful compared to my mile/3k PR's. Would doing long hard runs, say 10mi at 5:30 pace, help?

15 years ago 05/06/2009 5:10pm EDT

re: GuideMe

get a coach with teammates to pull you along.

15 years ago 05/06/2009 9:03pm EDT

re: GuideMe

I can help you out. drop me an email at

jcerge@yahoo.com

with some information(a little breakdown of your training, goals, etc.) and I can help devise a training program for you.

Jason Cerge

Head Coach

A New Breed Racing Team NYC

15 years ago 05/06/2009 9:09pm EDT

re: NY Coach

Don't listen to this goober. ONLY I can help you. Send me an e-mail and I will hook you up.

Jimmy Jimmerson

Flaxseed Oils R US, Inc.

15 years ago 05/06/2009 9:22pm EDT

re: NY Coach

NY Coach wrote:
I can help you out. drop me an email at
jcerge@yahoo.com
with some information(a little breakdown of your training, goals, etc.) and I can help devise a training program for you.
Jason Cerge
Head Coach
A New Breed Racing Team NYC

that dude is pretty legit, he helped a few of my buds make some big improvements...maybe someone to at least contact

15 years ago 05/06/2009 10:20pm EDT

re: GuideMe

Being fast at shorter distances and running a ton of miles won't guarantee success. I'm no coach, but in general if I can't hit a pace I'm 'supposed' to be able to hit I try to sneak up on it. I run slower for longer and faster for shorter. So yes 10miles at 5:30pace should help you out. Probably start with that or a little easier in the base phase. As you transition to speed work you should be able to get it down to 5:15-20 pace and then after a while, you'll be running your 5K workouts just fine and won't have to bother with the 10miler anymore.

15 years ago 05/07/2009 3:56am EDT

re: GuideMe

15 years ago 05/07/2009 5:57am EDT

re: JimmyJimmerson

Jimmerson is slated to coach the US Team at the next Olympics.

He's radical [no cardio] but with a proven track record.

15 years ago 05/07/2009 6:09am EDT

re: GuideMe

Stop going to message boards for training advice - you will improve immediately.

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