Is this meet going to be webstreamed live? Surely Arkansas will do this? It costs nothing and just takes a camera. Someone call their sports information office and demand they get their heads out of their asses. The fact the German's Mile is lost is the sadest thing I've seen for our sport since Marion's lies.
It will be transmitted unedited cleartext on the Ku Band satellite dish (the 9 foot minimum). You can hear all the comments and mistakes that are later edited out.
If you are at an engineering department or a commercial research lab which is on the Federal research backbone just dial into a satellite TV server on the MBONE or experimental MPLS/VPN gateway and watch it.
How pethetic that Arkansas sports information office is not setting up a camera and streaming this. What a joke that entire program has become!
Cant see that. I can barely watch WCSN. Once WCSN gets to 100 watching it stops working.
redic u lus wrote:
How pethetic that Arkansas sports information office is not setting up a camera and streaming this. What a joke that entire program has become!
Ha, yea what a joke. I hope you're kidding. Because I am.
Maybe it has to do with the fact that it will be on tv nationally Sunday.
You are the "pethetic" one.
And we complain about not having enough money in the sport.
Marsh you funny man. I hope you are the one kidding. You actually think you are going to see the 5K on "national tv on Sunday"? I got $1000 says they show no more than 4 minutes of the entire race. It will be something like this----the start + 3 laps then to commercial and then 5 run throughs of the pole vault over to the track for a 2K split and back to commercial and then return to show you Chelenga crossing the line as Rupp DNF's with an archiles problem. The entire time the commentators will be blowing smoke up Oregon's ass and Arkansas weenies.
There is no reason this race is not shown live somewhere.
marsh wrote:
And we complain about not having enough money in the sport.
There is zero cost involved in a school webstreaming a live meet or game.
henry the steepler wrote:
There is no reason this race is not shown live somewhere.
Yes there is-- it's called a contract. Anything and everything that happens at the Tyson Track from 8pm to 10pm is ESPN's until the conclusion of their Sunday broadcast. They have it all to themselves until that point.
its not money wrote:
marsh wrote:And we complain about not having enough money in the sport.
There is zero cost involved in a school webstreaming a live meet or game.
This is not the case.
Kipp wrote:
This is not the case.
I know. I love how people just assume that anything involving computers, networking, and IT is free, because some of the equipment is 'already there'.
Hint: if WSCN really goes down after 100 users sign on, how much better would a low-cost solution that Ark could cobble together be?
And that's not getting into the contracts aspect.
I'm as annoyed by the lack of good video race coverage as anyone else, but be realistic about what it takes to cover it well.
Sunday on ESPN ? 2 days late. By then I'll have the full videos from torrent trackers and p2p sites. ESPN is too late and is wasting money for nothing.
Kipp wrote:
its not money wrote:There is zero cost involved in a school webstreaming a live meet or game.
This is not the case.
i work for a sid office for a d1 school and can confirm that you can download the software to webstream live for free. all you need is a quality video camera and a connection to high speed internet and you are good to stream. there is no cost above someone opperating the camera.
No it is not free. You have to pay 1) the person running the camera 2) the computer guy setting up the software and the network 3) hosting fees 4) advertising fees (how else would we know when and where the meet will be on) 5) equipment costs...you see where this is going.
Also, ESPN has paid for the rights to the video of the meet. A majority of this money goes to Arkansas. I'm sure there is a clause in the contract stating that ESPN will be the sole video provider for this meet. If Arkansas decides they want to broadcast the meet on their own (highly unlikely as they are a university, not a broadcasting network), they forfeit this payment.
none of the free services are reliable at all. ustream.tv (located xc the st from t&fn editorial offices) and other 1st gen streamers use internet 1 facilities. the service is spotty and only takes 100 or so users before it overloads. when i watch wcsn/universal sports it chokes unless you sign on early. penn relays local cable, mt sac relays local cable, etc. chokes after only 100 users.
ESPN does not pay anyone. A TV producer pays ESPN for a broadcast time slot and pipes his video at that time over the ESPN network. It's like making a reserved phone call to the moon. ESPN is a just a common carrier, like a trucking company, UPS, Post Office, Sprint Cellular, Verizon, etc.
Fine. The TV Producer paid Arkansas. God, are you really that dense? Regardless, Arkansas does not have the video from the meet on the web.
a second point of view wrote:
No it is not free. You have to pay 1) the person running the camera 2) the computer guy setting up the software and the network 3) hosting fees 4) advertising fees (how else would we know when and where the meet will be on) 5) equipment costs...you see where this is going.
yes it is. i'm already on salary and streaming is part of my job, so 1 & 2 are covered. 3 is covered by my universy on an annual basis with CSTV. what about 4? we have no advertising costs above what we already incure to operate our department. also, i know where the tyson meet is held and if it's streamed i would start looking for the live feed on the track home page. again, the costs are already absorbed in daily operations at my school since we stream live basketball, soccer, swimming, lax, field hockey and football. so, adding a track meet is no additional cost. just my time and that's already paid through my salary.
The TV Producer paid for the elite meet only and will tape and show it on Sunday. Before that fans will post videos on youtube and p2p servers, the press will write reports and show photos that will take away viewers. The photos from wire services and major photo press can be released immediately. Websites, parents, and track photgs must wait until Saturday afternnoon to release their photos, but that's STILL before the TV showing on Sunday.
Okay, so about how much did the TV producer pay to Arkansas? Is this big money here, or something where I and a few friends could easily out bid the TV producer.