This weekend at NYSCTCs Kosgei split a 4:04 in the anchor leg of the DMR to bring his team from way back to the win. The next day he ran a 4:12.82 in the open mile. Held off Hardbarger by .03.
This weekend at NYSCTCs Kosgei split a 4:04 in the anchor leg of the DMR to bring his team from way back to the win. The next day he ran a 4:12.82 in the open mile. Held off Hardbarger by .03.
Wouldn't kosgei have been better off by not running the DMR and running the 4:04 the next day so he'd auto-qualify for nationals?
Looks like O'brien will be this year's champ in the 800.
Bump.
Any new predictions as the lists fill up even more?
Anyone know who is running ECAC this weekend, or any other last chance meets looking to drop any qualifying times??
Who might run what at Nationals?
It all depends on what Kosgei decides to run. If you take him out of the mile, then that opens it up to anyone making it. The DMR is always a great race either way.
Can't wait.!
ECAC Performance List:
kosgei hasn't qualified for anything except a provisional mark in the mile, which may not get him into nationals if anyone runs faster this weekend. He won't run the 5k (hasn't qualified and can't just enter at ECAC's without qualifying) and it looks like he has not entered the 800 at ECAC's, meaning he's out of it at nationals.
So at this point, the hands down best runner in d3 runs the risk of not making it to nationals.
Who will win if kosgei doesn't make it?
my titties are salty and my nuts hurt
hands down best runner didn't make nationals? that's an oxymoron.
my daddy tells me im the best runner and i never go to nationals
Peter, even if he doesn't run faster, will make it in. Yet the reality is that he's going to run 4:08 or faster all by himself at ECACs.
I'd say it's safe to say that kosgei is the best runner in d3. Yes, that's a pretty safe bet given that he has 6 national titles right now and has range from the 800-cross that really is unparalleled in d3. So, yes, he is fairly easily the best runner in d3 right now and quickly becoming one of the most decorated d3 runners of all-time.
my titties are STILL salty and my nuts STILL hurt
I think Willy Kaul's 14:07 would disagree with Kosgei being the hands down best runner. And his 8:16, which is faster than what Kosgei has done. And sorry, if he doesnt make nationals he is CLEARLY not the best runner when he has run more than one mile race.
dominiquebowmer wrote:
I think Willy Kaul's 14:07 would disagree with Kosgei being the hands down best runner. And his 8:16, which is faster than what Kosgei has done. And sorry, if he doesnt make nationals he is CLEARLY not the best runner when he has run more than one mile race.
Kaul has never beaten Kosgei, Kosgei has won 6 national titles. Kosgei is the class of DIII, I just don't know what is up with him this indoor season. If the 4:04 is true, that is studly. Maybe he's saving some to bust out an insane steeple and a solid 5k, who knows. All I know is that if he gets in the mile he will be the man to beat no matter what seed time he has going in.
a few thoughts:
1 - Kaul has never beaten Kosgei. Kosgei beat Kaul this year in XC and last year in XC. Then, when they faced off in the outdoor 5k Kosgei destroyed him last year.
2 - Kaul has posted a great 5k time this year, nobody can argue with that. But, when determining who is a better runner I like to look at performance over a long period of time as well as current performances over, lets say, the last few months. Given that Kosgei has 6 national titles and has beaten Kaul each time they have raced...tough to call Kaul to superior runner.
3 - Kaul is much less impressive over various distances than Kosgei. Not only did Kosgei beat Kaul last year in the 5k, but Kosgei has faster mile and 800 pr's.
It will be interesting to see what Kosgei does. I get the feeling that when he declares, the guys in the event he didn't declare for will have a little weight off of their shoulders.
Until Kosgei graduates, he is the favorite in any race he enters. End of conversation.
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Do you morons know what "hands down" means? And Kaul's 14:07 shows an obvious jump from his previous level. Kaul has two national titles and multiple All American plaques. So its not like he is a slouch either. Again, if he doesn't make it to nationals it's because he wasn't one of the top 12 or whatever runners in the event he tried qualifying in. Just because he has 6 titles from past seasons doesnt mean shit about what he can do now. There are plenty of guys that roll, get injured/sick and can never regain their old form.
Hopefully nothing is wrong with him and he has just been chilling in his races. But, Kaul will get him this year in track. Fact.
Ok Dwight, why dont you just calm down a little. You might want to think twice before making guarantees like that. I mean you have a lot to lose. Just think of the shame, you might have to change your handle again.
I think its pretty clear to anyone not in the clouds that Kosgei is the better runner. Kaul is good and 14:07 is fast but if you put them in a head to head race who do you think is going to win?
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