Kiptoo Wins West!

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1. Shadrack Kiptoo NM 15:32

2. Mohamed Trafeh CA 15:35

3. Galen Rupp OR 15:37

4. Stuart Eagon OR 15:38

5. Evan Garber WA 15:42

6. Mark Matusak CA 15:44

7. Alex Dunn CA 15:45

8. Tom Wyatt WA 15:46

9. Steve Strickland UT 15:49

10. Charles Hampton AZ 15:56

come on how old is Kiptoo? No way he is under 21

I saw him today. Webb looked older than him when he was a senior in HS.

yes... but that's only because he was bald.

ill admit it, i thought kiptoo was old after seeing him in the pictures. however, when i saw him today, he did not look old at all. There were a lot of other kids out there whol looked older.

BS. Finally saw Kiptoo in person. Only a supreme ass kisser would say he's under 20. Jeez. Trafeh should be handed the 1st place prize and Kiptoo should be ashamed.

ill admit it, i thought kiptoo was old after seeing him in the pictures. however, when i saw him today, he did not look old at all. There were a lot of other kids out there whol looked older.[/quote]

Are you nuts? All anyone talked about was how old looking this cheat is. Take a look at this pick and the others at dyestat. If I could, I'd post the shots I took. This guy is 22 or 23. What other "kids" looked older? Were you looking at the parents of some of the other kids? Someone else said Webb looked older? Incredible. Everyone is so scared to be critical of Africans and God knows what else.

I agree. Trafeh was robbed of a win by a guy who's as old if not older than most college seniors.

http://www.dyestatcal.com/image/3xc/12-December/FootLockerLogos/031205KiptooHellebuyck.jpg

bump... i say he is older and how can he get away with it. NO, webb did not look older than this imported cheat. I will say it now, that he is NOT a clear cut favorite at nationals...

Rupp looks like a girl.

Was he in the right race today?

Sure is cute though.

oksxccoach wrote:

bump... i say he is older and how can he get away with it. NO, webb did not look older than this imported cheat. I will say it now, that he is NOT a clear cut favorite at nationals...

You're right. Anyone that thinks Webb looked that old is a crackhead. Kiptoo is a guy in his early 20's with decent talent who beat a bunch kids. If anything, he looked OLDER than the pictures that the guy linked to above.

The only reason you guys are being critical is being he is not american and he is good. No one cares about the kenyans who come to the US and are bad runners. No one cares that Trafeh is not from the US b/c he didnt win. I don't see why you guys hate him so much. I guess your ancestors were all stupid cheats for coming over to america shame on them those idiots....

The fact still stands, even if don't want to except it. You just got your ass kicked by an 18 year old high school senior named Shadrack Kiptoo. I hope you have now convinced yourself that he is really older so that you can sleep better tonight, but the rest of the world doesn't care. Why? Because in the end, it will be Shadrack in the Olympics, and you, well, you will be sitting infront of your T.V. telling your kids how one day you ran in a race with that guy. Good luck with your endeavors, but I can already asure you that with a mindset like yours, you are already far behind Shadrack.

i am in my mid 20's and i get carded too because I still look like i am 19/20... big deal... kiptoo looks older and i am not saying that haji, MoK, MoT or any other import that runs HS here is not older. the reality is know one really knows because those records can get lost when these kids leave their countries, in some cases very hastily to avoid fighting some civil war...

yes coach since you know all about leaving kenya. You know that people lose their records everytime they leave the country. Look he showed proper papework proving his age.. let me guess those are counterfeit b/c if you look like you're 20 then you must be 20 right? He proved his age..now you prove your statements..

He provided his papers and New Mexico got supporting evidence from Kenya.

I'm not taking either side, but I do remember that Little League pitcher who provided a fake birth certificate that said he was 12 when he was actually 14 I think. Paperwork is almost (but not always) accurate.

i saw him up close today... i believe that he's 18. He's actually not that tall and not that buff, its just that some pitures make him look like it. standing next to Trafeh, they looked the same age. He looks older than Rupp, but way younger than matusak, who is 2 years younger. The new mexico officicals obviously didnt want him competing, so if he had fake documents i bet they would have found them. the point is - leave the guy alone, if he wins nats then he wins nats, its no different than all the other foreigners that are running in the country.