I was wondering what elite athletes other than Ian Dobson are taking this stuff? Do his teammates also take this testosterone booster?
I was wondering what elite athletes other than Ian Dobson are taking this stuff? Do his teammates also take this testosterone booster?
NOT BRIAN SELL.
already a couple of threads on this topic:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&id=2592055&thread=2592055
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&id=2597118&thread=2597118
This game isn't hard. You read the list of ingredients on the supplement, then read the wada list. I don't understand why some things are even debated.
There's nothing illegal about the supplement.
You are assuming that this product that is NOT governed by the FDA actually has the same ingredients on the label and in the bottle.
If they included something that was banned, maybe it would work better and they would sell more. At $80 for a one month supply it is pretty expensive. The company making this is certainly in the business of making money and not necessarily in the business of having clean athletes.
Fair enough, but you could also argue the opposite. It might not have any benefits at all and effectively be "snake oil." You make more money selling crap for alot of money, than by selling the good stuff disguised as something less.
I don't know for sure, I'm just saying your arguement could go either way.
From the testo-boost website.
"What is Testoboost? Testoboost is formulated by Dr. Mauro Di Pasquale to optimize your body's natural testosterone levels. Testoboost is a testosterone booster formula. Testoboost increases muscle mass. Testoboost also decreases body fat and increases sexual desire by boosting the body's natural testosterone.
Testoboost is an effective solution for maximizing your anabolic drive by taking full advantage of physiologically elevated testosterone levels. Testosterone is the master male hormone. Supplementing with Testoboost can increase your natural testosterone levels. Testoboost can increase male sex drive, strengthen bones, muscles, decrease body fat, improve thinking ability, boost energy levels and guard against the onset of depression and heart disease."
This shit does some really great things. Increase muscle mass. Increases sexual desire. Decreases body fat.
Ingredients:
http://www.metabolicdiet.com/common/product_supplementpanel_popup.asp?idproduct=189
Just posted this on the Dobson thread, but it's interesting.
This shit can't be for real. The guy who made it has these guys as clients:
http://www.maurodipasquale.com/practice_clients.asp
List includes Bill Romanowski and Mo Vaughn.
If it walks like a duck...
Does Ryan Hall also has a shelf full if things most of us have never heard of? Makes you want to pull for Sell.
Did you read the indredients list? There's exactly one thing on there that any normal person "hasn't heard of."
More Facts wrote:
This shit can't be for real. The guy who made it has these guys as clients:
http://www.maurodipasquale.com/practice_clients.aspList includes Bill Romanowski and Mo Vaughn.
If it walks like a duck...
Romanowski was also on the BALCO list along with Alberto. This site looks a lot like the old BALCO site. Same kind of claims that is simply a front for doping. Doctors like this know the system which is why Marion passed a couple hundred drug tests. It is very sad to see american distance runners caught up in this shit.
More Facts wrote:
This shit can't be for real. The guy who made it has these guys as clients:
http://www.maurodipasquale.com/practice_clients.aspList includes Bill Romanowski and Mo Vaughn.
If it walks like a duck...
Um, Romanowski may have been a drug cheat, but he was also obsessed with supplements, not just illegal ones. He knew what worked and had a very strict regimen. If Romanowski took it and it's legal, it's probably VERY legit and works well.
No way wrote:
Did you read the indredients list? There's exactly one thing on there that any normal person "hasn't heard of."
Define "normal" ?? You are saying the average "normal" person has heard of:
Bioperine
Tribulus Terrestris
Steroidal Saponins
5-methyly methoxy isoflavone
Arginine Alpha-ketoglutarate
Catuaba Bark
Chrysin
Coleus Forskohili
Damiana
Deer Ander
Eurycoma Longifolia
Ipriflavone
etc, etc, etc (ok, I got tired of typing)
So there's "exactly" one thing in TestoBoost that a "normal" person hasn't heard of? You sure about that? I'd say you are off by exactly a dozen or so ingredients (or maybe you failed to read the ingredients that make up the 5333 mg of "TestoBoost" Proprietary Formula that dominate this product. Or maybe you think that only people that work in GNC are "normal")
Sir Lance-alot wrote:
Bioperine
Tribulus Terrestris
Steroidal Saponins
5-methyly methoxy isoflavone
Arginine Alpha-ketoglutarate
Catuaba Bark
Chrysin
Coleus Forskohili
Damiana
Deer Ander
Eurycoma Longifolia
Ipriflavone
That's not deer ander, that's DEER ANTLER... GROSS!!!
pwned n00bs wrote:
Sir Lance-alot wrote:Bioperine
Tribulus Terrestris
Steroidal Saponins
5-methyly methoxy isoflavone
Arginine Alpha-ketoglutarate
Catuaba Bark
Chrysin
Coleus Forskohili
Damiana
Deer Ander
Eurycoma Longifolia
Ipriflavone
That's not deer ander, that's DEER ANTLER... GROSS!!!
Good point, that IS what that says, my bad.
Ok, normal, every-day people have heard of deer antler, so take it off my list (except normal every-day people certainly don't expect it end up in their morning beverage)
Andro was legal/OTC supplement that helped me break the single season home-run record - of course that didn't last long because of some drug-cheat . . .
That is what it says is in there. How would anyone know if it is true? I challenge anyone to tell me the difference between deer antler and porcupine quill or EPO. The supplement industry has no FDA approval.
Tribulus is an herb that increases testosterone production. Steroidal sapponins, despite there scary sounding name come from plants and have various health benefits. 5-methyl-methoxyisoflavone is the one T expected noone to hear of. Its a non-hormonal testosterone booster. Arginine is an amino acid. Catuaba bark, even if you don't know what it does is obviously the bark of a plant. In this case it happens to increase testosterone. Chrysin comes from blue passion flowers (I guess maybe this one might not be well known either). Coleus Forskohili is a plant that helps to burn fat. Damiana is an herb with varied health benefits. Longifolia is another herb that increases testosterone production. Ipriflavone is an isoflavone that increases testosterone production.
Many of these, such as tribulus, forskohili, and longifolia, are commonly in the health section of the newspaper. Thats where I heard of them. I guess I assumed that most runners are health conscious and pay attention to that stuff.
The difference between this drug and illegal drugs are that these substances simply improve your body's ability to produce testosterone. Its the equivalent of taking iron and vitamins to increase red blood cells.
Also like vitamins and iron, its possible to get most of this from your diet, its just tough to do. And just like iron and vitamins, your bosy does alright without them, and you probably wouldn't know if you were defficient, but you're not working at 100% efficiency.
alsal's group take, ALPHA MALE by biotest, trust me.