Who won the Republican debate?

Rundaddy to me it seems you just have a problem with principled and honest people. There is nothing looney about what Ron Paul thinks. He has been constantly voted back in office because his constituents trust in him. That has to say at least a little. You seem to be more of the conspiracy theorist type more than Ron Paul. Paul knows how the world works but you use phrases like "The UN is trying to take over the world." No, he would say that the UN has an agenda, and that agenda includes setting up a means for global governance. See the difference?

Stay in your bunker until the election is over.

yea! wrote:

But all this doesn't matter. Ron Paul will never win, and even if he did he could never get the legislative support to enact his radical ideas. So a vote for Ron Paul is a protest vote at best. You might as well vote for Bozo the Clown.

Sadly, you're probably right. Unless something is done about vote rigging, electronic machines, and caging we have little hope of legitimate elections. Given that nearly everyone in now in office got there by such dubious means, it's unlikely anything will be done.

Wow, whatever eensy, weensy, little shred of credibility you might have had in this debate you just wiped out with the above BS. So voter FRAUD is the reason why Ron Paul won't win?? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus Mary and Joseph. Maybe you should go back to your shtick of sarcasm and attempted haughty witticisms, it served you better since you clearly lack substantive arguments. Ron Paul won't win because despite the stupidity of the American people, they still know a conspiracy nut when they see one, and that is what Ron Paul is. Ron Paul won't win mainly because elections are rigged??? Wow. Is it any wonder that conspiracy nuts like yourself are attracted to Ron Paul? Nope. The guy is a cult, and attracts fringe crazies like nobody's business.

Paul attracts that whole population of people who are scared, and try to place blame for their lot in life on someone or something. Blame it on the UN, the Fed, or some other mysterious group of people who conrol all our fates. Just because you feel someone is talking "straight" is no reason to place your faith in them. Paul's views on the Fed and a return to the gold standard are dangerous. The stability of a country is rooted in economic stability. You mess with the money supply, and you've got the recipe for disaster.

ihateyou wrote:

Rundaddy to me it seems you just have a problem with principled and honest people. There is nothing looney about what Ron Paul thinks. He has been constantly voted back in office because his constituents trust in him. That has to say at least a little. You seem to be more of the conspiracy theorist type more than Ron Paul. Paul knows how the world works but you use phrases like "The UN is trying to take over the world." No, he would say that the UN has an agenda, and that agenda includes setting up a means for global governance. See the difference?

I'll concede the point that he's honest and principled. I suppose it's unfair of me to call him dishonest. I'll concede that Ron Paul believes in everything he says.

But, a person can be principled and honest and flat out wrong at the same time. A person can be principled and honest and still be a wacky eccentric whose ideas are nutty.

Lots of principled, honest people believe the moon landing was a hoax. Doesn't mean it didn't actually happen.

RunDaddy, who do you support? Who do you think is not nutty? Sorry if I missed it earlier if you already mentioned it.

Apparently you missed the Ohio vote fraud cases. I don't have the details right now, but I'm pretty sure there were at least two convictions.

Conspiracy... who said anything about a conspiracy?

That would be YOU.

Exactly how is Ron Paul a cult?

you wimps wrote:

any enemy of israel is an enemy of civilization and america and we must accelerate the policy of total annihilation of the persians and arabs. we must destroy their chimps ways and convert them to christianity to live side by side with israel. remember the primary goal that bush set down when he took office, was the supremacy of the state of israel. bush took sharon's lead and refused to negotiate with terrorists, and turned the tide against the chimps that clinton had before (coddling the terrorists).

Find a better solution.

Strange how so many bush haters love Hugo Chavez. Join the club, add your name to the list below:

Cindy Sheehan

Sean Penn

Danny Glover

Naomi Campbell

Fidel Castro

Come on don't be shy!

A comedy show on CNN? What's next?

So if you're against Bush, you must be a Chavez lover, is that it?

By that rationale, anyone who criticizes Hitler supports Stalin.

I'd say the Democrats won. What a bunch of nitwits.

The only one on that stage I'd vote for is Anderson Cooper.

Um, Anderson is a nitwit. Democrats just like him because he is handsome and gay. Thats who democrats generally vote for. John Edwards will win the democratic nomination.

*spoken in denture speak, aka. whistling through the teeth*

Aren't you married to me?

Cleave biotch!!!

Othewise I'll be lookin to hook up with that fine young Edwards!

I am GOP (gay old peophile) ya know!

Farty Fred is a Chicken Hawk coward. He's another warmonger who never was in the Army when he had plenty of opportunities to join.

bro fro wrote:

RunDaddy, who do you support? Who do you think is not nutty? Sorry if I missed it earlier if you already mentioned it.

I'm not sure who to support at this point. I like a few, but they all have plusses and minuses that I haven't fully weighed in my mind.

But, at the risk of being mercilessly bashed, I am leaning towards Obama and I see him finally starting to make headway against Clinton. I am really bothered by some of Obama's anti-free trade comments, and some of his rather naive foreign policy statements. But he also strikes me as a very bright guy who will temper those impulses once in office and when he gains a more informed perspective. Obama to me also has a youthful idealism that I think could be beneficial to the country at this point in time.

On the Republican side, I can only see myself voting for McCain at this point. I don't like the way he treats the uniformed military at times, but I respect his stance against the administration on its detention policy, and with the administration and against the majority of the Republican party on reforming immigration. McCain can be caustic and annoying at times, but he has been a leader in the Senate on many issues.

Finally, while I've been critical of the Bush Administration, I have admired how much it has done for Africa. Through PEPFAR, MCC, AGOA and other programs, I think this administration will be remembered for having done more for Africa than any previous American administration by a long shot.

What I really hope for the country is that we get to a place where we can honestly and respectfully debate issues, and get away from the down right mean nastiness I see on both sides. I am so sick of seeing downright mean and disrespectful bumper stickers about GW Bush, just as I was sickened by the anti-Clinton bumper stickers in the 90s. What kind of a person puts that kind of vitriol about a sitting president on their car? My father was an ardent Democrat and former civil rights worker. He was seriously upset when Reagan won in 1980, but I always remember that he refused to engage in or tolerate any insulting or disrespectful talk about Reagan. He had too much respect for the presidency. He taught me right.

RunDaddy wrote:

But, at the risk of being mercilessly bashed, I am leaning towards Obama and I see him finally starting to make headway against Clinton. I am really bothered by some of Obama's anti-free trade comments, and some of his rather naive foreign policy statements. But he also strikes me as a very bright guy who will temper those impulses once in office and when he gains a more informed perspective. Obama to me also has a youthful idealism that I think could be beneficial to the country at this point in time.

This post scares me a little bit, RunDaddy. You don't agree with Obama on two fundamental issues, but you still want to vote for him because you think he'll change his mind? Don't count on it.

You should choose the candidate that most closely echoes your own opinions, not one who disagrees with you. That doesn't make any sense at all.

I will agree with you Rundaddy from a standpoint of wanting to see Obama get the democratic nomination. However, my reason is simply because the day Hillary clinton becomes president of the United States is the day I become a 4 year resident of Australia. However, I just dont think McCain can win it. At this point Romney has been the front runner in many people's eyes, however the fact that he is mormon will likely play a huge role in whether or not he gets it.

Also, thank you for pointing out all the good that has been done in Africa by this administration. That doesnt get a mention very much. Also, agreed 100% on respecting the presidency. Heres the thing folks, rude bumper stickers and 30 man protests on some random street in Georgia arent gonna do anything. Give it up, stop wasting space on your car's bumper and your time on a saturday, and hang in there til voting time. And for God's sake stop sending me spam about how much Bush sucks.

I'm a Chicken hawk too. My grandmommny Barabara didn't want my pretty complexion to be ruined. I avoided the infantry too like big Freddy T, Giuliwoppo, hot Mitt, and chunk Butt Limbaugh.