Paula - "Training in Albuquerque"

dude...your obviously gay,

if by doping you mean her body will be producing more blood cells naturally due to training at a higher elevation WHICH is completely LEGAL! well yes then mr. Duke City. . . she will be "doping" according to you.

F***ing IDIOT

sure...one of the athletes who has been tested more than anybody else is guilty cuz she's moving to ABQ???

doubt it.

really do.

Yeah anyone else notice when anyone does something good or runs some great times this board always calls them a doper?

What about Hall, Ritz, Webb? must all be doping huh? (Sarcasm)

I always see these smug posts about Alb. being a dopers' haven, but the only time I have seen any real attempt to quantify the number of abusers and listing suspects(which can't begin to determine a proportion, because the total number of elites actually training there over time is unknown, but surely very high) was on another thread a few months ago. There, another poster seemed to really debunk the list of suspects and/or their connections to Alb. I asked, on that thread, why Alb. would be, or is, such an attractive place for dopers and only got a response that Alb. is close to Mexico. It seems to me that drugs are available worldwide, anywhere, any time--and in much more remote locations. I don't want to be a naive "PED denier," but I also resent the condescending approach taken by those who easily sling accusations but cannot support their accusations by anything other than repetition of the accusation. If all elites use PEDs, then why go to Albuquerque, NM? If only those elites going to Alb use PEDs, then why Alb? Particular doctors? Coaches? Particular dealers? Can someone enlighten me with some factual evidence or at least a coherent theory? I am really interested in the genesis and basis of the perception of Alb as a dopers' destination. I am not interested in sticking up for anyone or sticking it to anyone. Thanks.

wait a second all those ingredients are from the south, there planning to move the team to alberquerque

yeh homes right and the napkin says alberquerque isotopes

I am puzzled that Paula claims her home is Monaco near Nice, South of France. Monaco is a concrete jungle with no trails or grass. In fact, the only grass to be found in Monaco is the pitch of the soccer club at Stade Louis 2.

The closest park is about 40km away in Villeneuve Loubet, and that park is only about 3-4 km loop. Another alternative would be to drive for about 2 hours to one of the ski resorts, where you can run, for part of the year, on some cross country ski trails. But very hilly. Places like Valberg and Auron.

Does this mean that Paula only trains on the road when in Monaco?

Ghost in Korea

Monaco is a tax haven. Not too complicated really.

Yes, Monaco is a choice of residence for many sportsmen/sportswomen (athletes - as you say in the US) because of their tax provisions. Monaco's taxes, won't rob you that much of your hard earned money. Bubka used to be a Monaco resident, Isinbayeva is as well, and many others.

They don't need to live there, neither they do- except for an occassional sleepover during their travels, or post-season. I doubt anyone lives there during their training stints. Besides it's very expensive. It's enough to buy a small apartment there to claim your residentship, which is unavailable to most mortals (over million EUR for one small apartment- less than 60 sq meters- or 550 sq. feet).

Well somebody lives there because my architectural firm is in the middle of planning a huge new island city off the coast.

Thanks for reminding me of what was on the front page yesterday.

I have yet to see where these "gills" are.

mobile9 wrote:

I have yet to see where these "gills" are.

So THAT'S her secret! She has gills to take in more oxygen. Genius!

Radcliffe has been rumored to be on HGH for over 5 years now... get over it, the sport is dirty. The woman wears OxySocks and a nose strip, trains at altitude, sleeps in a tent, eats ostrich meat, takes god-knows how many supplements... all performance enhancing to the purist.

Te,I think 90% of the people who bash Albuquerque have never been here and certainly don't know anyone personally who trains here. It's just easy for them to see a few posts and then jump on the "EPO-que" bandwagon. The other 10% are probably elites at other sites who criticize Albuquerque knowing full-well that their own back-yards aren't the cleanest either. Albuquerque is no less "enhanced" than Boulder, Eugene, Portland and the Bay Area...but if all the Pharisees bash Albuquerque they can minimize the pandemic proportions of global dopage (in their minds anyway).

Deeja Youngquist: Busted

Eddy Hellebuyck: Busted

Teddy: Eddy's little buddy - downward spiral shortly after Eddy got busted.

Hind Dehiba, Dehiba's husband and "unnamed athlete": Busted -

The 27-year-old Moroccan-born runner was arriving back in France with her husband and another athlete after attending a training camp in Albuquerque, New Mexico.Customs officers searched their luggage and found the drugs after which Dehiba, her husband and the other unnamed athlete were arrested.

Gabriela Szabo: Essentially Busted - In 2003, French authorities discovered an undeclared substance in the boot of her car, driven by a family friend, for delivery to teammate Mihaela Botezan. A week later they cleared Szabo of any charges. She retired from athletics in 2005 amid health problems and a decline in her performance, citing exhaustion.

Khalid Skah - Head Coach, he liked "training in Duke City" - Khalid Skah, according to him, provided products to Essarokh, Zoubaa and Bouchaouante. As for Dorothee Paulmann, which lives in Trier (Germany), former wife of a doctor, ex-triathlète and to manage approved by the IAAF of the Kenyan half-caster Edith Masai, it would provide “regularly” Bouabdellah Tahri in prohibited products."

BENOIT ZWIERZCHIEWSKI - Busted

European Record Holder in Marathon Benoit Zwierzchiewski Jailed after Drugs Found in His Home

Süreyya Ayhan - Busted

Süreyya Ayhan, one of Turkey's best hopes for a gold medal at the 2004 Athens Olympics, withdrew from the games due to an injured tendon during a training in Germany. Allegations that Ayhan may have attempted to cheat on a pre-Olympic doping test surfaced in August after testers reportedly complained of being obstructed from carrying out their work. She was cleared of doping allegations by the IAAF, but the athlete violated rules while taking her test. IAAF ruled that Ayhan had not taken performance-enhancing drugs, but said the athlete had broken testing rules, and she was banned for two years.[1] Her trainer, Yucel Kop, who is also her husband, has long rejected cheating allegations, but acknowledged obstructing a male tester from entering a room during a urine test. "It doesn't mean that we won't be punished" Kop said. "(But) there was no doping, no switching of samples, (just) violation of rules" he added. "I will not give up (running) until I have experienced an Olympic championship" Ayhan said.

In November 2007, she failed the tests while she was training in the United States and banned from professional sports for lifetime.

The training program is going very well. Everything is going in the direction that we (my coach and I) have planned. After this training camp in Albuquerque, we have two more training camps planned.

I'll bet you do ...

Sorry, but there is something going on - I don't have all day to track down all of these dirty bastards - these asswipes are just the ones who have been caught. Compare this to the similar or larger number of athletes who train just up the road in Boulder, and you realize that something is amiss.

Paula has regularly trained in Albuquerque since the mid 90's. It is one of the few places she can go and not be bothered by adoring fans and media. Leave her be.

stanslo wrote:

if by doping you mean her body will be producing more blood cells naturally due to training at a higher elevation WHICH is completely LEGAL! well yes then mr. Duke City. . . she will be "doping" according to you.

F***ing IDIOT

Actually, her erythrocytes are producing more 2,3-bisphosphoglycerate.

You forgot to list all those busted Russian marathon women. The place is a total drug haven.