Ryan and Chad Hall's dad is a 3:07 marathoner

It's been well documented that genetically, the mitochondria you have and the natural mitochondrial density comes from the mothers side. Their mom could have been a genetic beast but never trained for anything. Doesn't mean that it doesnt still carry onto the halls.

sure, but there's more to it than mitochondria from the mother. after all, look at matt centrowitz' kids. his daughter lauren won some state championships in high school and now runs for stanford. and of course his son matt was the top high schooler in the US last year in track. so it looks like men can pass on "running greatness" to their kids, too.

i think the genetic game is pretty complicated, especially when it comes to something as multifactorial as "running talent".

there is also something of a "regression to the mean" phenomenon. just because, for example, shayne and alan culpepper are both elite distance runners doesn't mean their children will exhibit the same level of talent if they decides to run competitively. shayne and alan both represent genetic extremes - random chances in gene combinations made them both excellent runners. but when you put them together, there's no guarantee that the combinations that brought them success will be passed on, or if they are, that they won't interact with other genes their children possess to result in talented but sub-elite runners. so while seb coe may have been right when he advised would-be olympians to choose their parents wisely, he might also have added the proviso to choose which specific genes they pass on to you wisely, as well. if that makes sense.

Gangsta! wrote:

It's been well documented that genetically, the mitochondria you have and the natural mitochondrial density comes from the mothers side. Their mom could have been a genetic beast but never trained for anything. Doesn't mean that it doesnt still carry onto the halls.

You misunderstand genetics and cytology. While the mitochondria does have its own DNA (100% of it coming from the mother), only 25% of protein synthesis is directed from this DNA. The other 75% comes from chromosomal DNA. Furthermore, there is little difference in the coding contributions for mitochondria, whether maternal or paternal.

How is this for a theory - Big Bear Lake.

Nah, The Big Bear Theory sounds better.

desert rodent wrote:

How is this for a theory - Big Bear Lake.

there are lots of people at big bear lake or similar locations. are they all fast?

meichenl wrote:

sure, but there's more to it than mitochondria from the mother. after all, look at matt centrowitz' kids. his daughter lauren won some state championships in high school and now runs for stanford. and of course his son matt was the top high schooler in the US last year in track. so it looks like men can pass on "running greatness" to their kids, too.

centrowitz mother did run around 2:07 for 800, not world class but still very good and I'm sure her genes had an impact.

What I know about Ryan's mom is that she said kind things to and about my son at several races. Ryan's gifts are many, with family topping the list.

Clearly a 3:07 is a time that takes a lot of work and talent to achieve

Please. You’re using Centro Jr as an example? He only ran 3:50 for the 1500 😉

The most persistent and resilient troll ever. Truly a troll dedicated to his craft. Deserving of admiration, a perverted admiration to be sure, but an admiration nevertheless as we are in the Mecca of trolling.

it is the equivalent of a 2:19 800 meters, doesn't qualify for Boston or the womens olympic trials.

some of us worked harder to achieve greater results

Didn’t he also play baseball in the minors? Pretty good athlete.

Have you ever worked hard in your life?

This is the correct answer.

Why aren't both sons named Chad?

Would've been a Chad move.

Have you ever made an intelligent statement?