Lebron James = Human Garbage

Sagarin wrote:

Interesting and quite ironic that a guy who keeps reiterating that it's no big deal and nothing to get upset about, while hurling insults about being emotionally challenged and childish absolutely cannot resist getting yet another retort in to make his point. Wouldn't someone who really didn't care at all act like that grown up standard that he holds everyone else to? Talk about amusing. How long before he must post yet again, perhaps under another moniker?

How long? How long indeed? I guess I "absolutely could not resist". Whoops. Looks like I have been ensnared in your clever trap. Curse you!

Now while you're busy getting all up in arms about Lebron and his gall to actually root for the visiting team (the bastard), please, don't take my accurate assessments of your stage of maturity as insults. It is not a permanent condition. Children eventually grow up, you see. You will too.

Sagarin wrote:

We simply disagree. Flagpole Willy offered a fair acknowledgement that I wouldn't disagree with, but where we differ is that is simply not polite to flaunt your bias in the faces of the home fans in a game of that magnitude. You want to wear Yankees gear around the streets of Cleveland outside of the game, then fine. Who cares? But, despite what the other imbecile thinks, I would bet that many more Indians fans than not were upset by LeBron's classless move. We'll see if he's wearing Yankees gear tonight. Being a genuine fan of a team is far different then ostentatiously displaying it in your own town in a game that, despite what any of you say, does carry meaning for the city. He should know better.

Man Sagarin you are just wrong on this one. Who do you respect more, the guy who has ALWAYS loved a certain team and continues to support them, or the guy who cheers on the Indians just because he's from that city? I completely disagree with Peter Gammons. LeBron was not seeking attention. He's freakin' Lebron James! He can call a press conference or eat in a public place or host Saturday Night Live or anything he wants to get attention if he wants. He's got money, he loves The Yankees and he went to a game with a Yankees hat on. Any Cleveland fan who is upset by that is just a sheep. He has friends on the Indians team who understand his allegiance.

Man, that was so far from being a classless move. Way more classless to chastize him for backing the team he loves. People fall in love with certain teams for all kinds of reasons. I've got a friend who never lived outside of Ohio who loves the Dodgers and always has. What's that about? I'm a Reds fan, but that was established when I was a kid and they were winning championships with Hall of Famers in the 70s. Would I be a huge fan now if that didn't happen when I was a kid? Who knows?

Get off Lebron's back man. He can be a fan of any team he wants for any reason he wants. He likes Derek Jeter. I'm no Yankees fan, but definitely a Derek Jeter fan. Dude has 6 200-hit seasons already and could challenge 4,000 hits.

Bob Feller agrees with Sagarin. He says he will show up at the next Pistons/Cavs game wearing a Pistons hat.

What he doesn't realize is that nobody else gives a crap.

You are all idiots!!! First stop acting like you are morally better than everyone else. The fact is that Lebron grew up in Cleveland! He should have no allegiance to the Yankees because, putting aside the fact that he plays for Cleveland, he is from NE Ohio!

Couldn't agree with you more on your last paragraph here, but I adamantly disagree that he, as a public figure and an icon for the city, shouldn't be held to a higher standard or, at least, know he is going to be held to a higher standard. As for the rest of your diatribe, well, it is underwhelming. Huge difference between someone like you or me being a fan of an opposing team in a state we never lived in and flaunting it (which would not be well received by the local fans as it is) and LeBron "King" James sporting it for all to see in his hometown.

Just not a fair comparison, and I'm surprised to see you try to make your point that way. Yes, I am actually a Laker fan, but I sure as hell don't play for the Nuggets, nor would I flaunt it anyway. And you won't see any Nuggets fans wearing Philly gear tomorrow, that's for sure. All athletes in Colorado, despite mostly not being from here, are currently under scrutiny in the media, and they are all publicly supporting the Rockies, because it is CLASSY and the RIGHT thing to do. Now, if after the playoffs are over, they resort to wearing a different teams' gear, then no one is going to care.

Here's the thing, and then feel free to take your best shot, because it's rather clear that none of us are going to compel the other side anyway and this really is an utterly useless topic, but... if LeBron wants to wear Yankees gear at Yankee Stadium to support the team that he "genuinely loves" against Cleveland in game 3, then I'm ok with that, and I'm sure many others who would seemingly argue otherwise would feel the same way. But, IN CLEVELAND, show some friggin respect for the city and its fans that are relying on you to be a PR machine for the city, not to mention, subsidizing your 35,000 sq, foot mansion and the commensurate benefits of your lifestyle.

Sagarin,

No one can really put a finger on why someone becomes a fan of a certain team. Fan is short for "fanatic". I guess I didn't get the memo that told me I had to be a fan of the closest team. In a world of phonies, people should be glad to see non-manufactured pure fandom, regardless of whether or not Lebron is a Cleveland icon. Is a guy born in Cleveland allowed to like cajun food? Or how about a philly cheesesteak? I just really don't see how this was a classless move on Lebron's part whatsoever. He'd be a big crowd pleaser and a phony if he cheered for the Indians when he's been a Yankees fan his whole life.

I grew up equidistant from Cleveland and Cincinnati. When then am I a Cincinnati fan? Cleveland has sure had more success since 1990 than the Reds.

Lebron is entitled. You could not be more wrong my brother.

This thread is emblematic of why professional athletes make the millions of dollars in salary you guys turn around and complain about on the next thread.

Have to agree with Sagarin on this one. It is classless on James part to wear the hat. I do agree though that it is his right to be classless if he chooses just like it's anyones right to call him classless for being classless. And the guy should simply know better. He's coming across like he's so important that he can do whatever he pleases. I guess it's the arrogance he displays that's so tasteless. Or maybe he's just so stupid and immature to know what turns so many people off. Or he simply doesn't give a shit what anyone thinks. Which brings us back to the arrogance of it.

He plays for the Cavs. I don't think his contract says anything about being an Indians fan.

Man, you missed the point by an entire state. This isn't about SOMEONE being a fan or merely disingenuously following the hometown team. At least, that's not the point I'm arguing. And yes, I can't stand bandwagon fans either. This is about the biggest icon, sports or otherwise, that Cleveland possesses. As such, he is no regular "fanatic."

I think you're missing his point totally. But you and you're aliases always do that. Miss the point totally and make up your own version of what the persons point is. Are you miswired or just plain illiterate?

Average runner wrote:

He plays for the Cavs. I don't think his contract says anything about being an Indians fan.

Fair enough, so, then, as I previously stated, don't wear any hat, unless it's a Cavs hat.

Sagarin wrote:

Fair enough, so, then, as I previously stated, don't wear any hat, unless it's a Cavs hat.

Right, because his contract DOES say that he is not allowed to support any other team or individual in any other sport.

Fair enough, so, a I previously stated, wear the gear any other time of the year or wear it at Yankee stadium, but just don't flaunt it at Cleveland's stadium DURING the playoffs.

The fact that this isn't a huge deal is apparent by me having to come to letsrun to find out about it and that it wasn't on the cover of espn.com or the USA today this morning.

It's foreshadowing. He'll be a Knick soon.

Surprise! wrote:

It's foreshadowing. He'll be a Knick soon.

From a dick to a Knick. How fitting

I wonder if his first childs name will spell Knick like Bradys kids name spells Jet? John Edward Thomas is Bradys kids name so Lebron will have to name his child Kenneth Nathaniel Ivan Charles Kevin.