Lake Winnipesaukee Relay

I've been around long enough to have been in the ancient and honorable Plymouth to Provincetown Relay that was the predecessor to LW.

Back in those days BAA, CMS, GLRR, Nike Boston et al would turn the thing into a gang war: regularly saw paces at sub-5:00 overall.

Bay Stater wrote:

I've been around long enough to have been in the ancient and honorable Plymouth to Provincetown Relay that was the predecessor to LW.

Back in those days BAA, CMS, GLRR, Nike Boston et al would turn the thing into a gang war: regularly saw paces at sub-5:00 overall.

Oh I believe it. I remember reading about it. I still have the issues of "Boston Running News" covering the races. But the terrain on the Cape, while not flat, doesn't quite match up with the Lake Winnie terrain. I don't doubt that they probably had a faster team on some of those P-to-P relays but any way you look at it, 5:09 on the Lake Winnie course is just plain awesome.

I thought Lake Winnipesaukee was just something made up by American Express. Learn something new every day.

Those BRN's may be collector's items...well, maybe not.

its good to know there are still some of us around who remember the P town relay..BRN, and if you go way back..yankee runner magazine

I remember running the P town relay a few times..had the honor of running on one of those CMS teams that won...those were some fast guys

who did you run for back then? Framingham?

What was the route of P2P (roughly speaking). About how far was it and how many legs?

It's a shame the coolrunning results only go back to 1996.

has anobody seen the movie "what about bob"???

as I recall..it started at plymouth rock..ended at the tower at P town...I did find this..the legs

9.1,8.1,15.8,7.5,6.3,9.5,13.5,11.0

of course..in those days..who really knew how long each leg was

As a first timer this year I love reading about the history of the race. So what do you guys think the leg difficulty is from hardest to easiest? I'll go first:

1, 3, 2, 5, 7, 8, 6, 4

What he said wrote:

As a first timer this year I love reading about the history of the race. So what do you guys think the leg difficulty is from hardest to easiest? I'll go first:

1, 3, 2, 5, 7, 8, 6, 4

For my money it is

3, 1, 5, 2, 7, 8, 6, 4

But then again, I have only run legs 2 and 5 before.

Yes 1 is very tough in the last couple of miles but 3 is just relentless up and down with that insane hill early one, then big long ones all the way through and that final long rise to the finish.

I cycled all the legs this year (though I did 1 and 2 the day before the race, not the day of) and that is certainly how I would rank them in terms of cycling difficulty. Admittedly an imperfect comparison at best.

really REALLY sucks

Framingham: Yup, still do. I believe I've done all but 2 or 3 of them since '85. I've usually been stuck with the anchor leg (with that character building 1.2-mile hill coming out of Meredith, nice of them to put a damned ROTARY near the summit, too) or that leg 7. I remember when the old start was at Gunstock and you had to run up that access road to get to the highway itself.

3, 2, 7, 1, 8, 5

Never did 4 and 6 only has one incline of significance and you have the good fortune to finish on the downslope before coming into the school.

2 is very deceptive as you have a long, grinding incline up until perhaps 1.7 miles outside of Alton Bay.

3 has Bay Hill Road or whatever they call it. I only ran leg 3 once, and they had that road closed, so instead of a the bends on the usual hill, we had ONE, but it was akin to running up a ski jump. Oy vey.

7 is tricky owing to the lack of shoulder in places.

1, well, 1 has rollers plus the psychological pressure of running leadoff.

8 has that murderous LONG hill out of Meredith, then the middle hill, which people forget about, until you pass the Pirate Cove Inn and face the downhill, then the final up...and can see the finish line from something like a mile off. If you're neck and neck with someone that last incline is heartbreaking: I've lost sight of the finish line at times owing to the crowds that can build up.

This year, it was a bit curious as to why they made up park on the grass BELOW FunSpot. I understand some vehicles got stuck.

I'm always saything THANK YOU to the cops that day. Remember the late Brewster MA police chief? HE is why it's help up in NH, now, which is an improvement. The elderly drivers on the Cape are potentially fatal.

The guy who was turning cars away told me it was the funspot who prevented people from parking in the lot. I guess last year, so many people left their cars in there that normal funspot customers had nowhere to park and were very unhappy about it.

I've actually run leg 2 something like 4 or 5 times now. the second half of that leg has a lot of rolling hills but it's actually a net downhill from the bottom of the BIG hill into Alton Bay.

New Hampshire?!?!?!?!!!

Gill wrote:

New Hampshire?!?!?!?!!!

Yes NH. Gill, hmmmm, You're not from the City of Champions are you?

What? They couldn't tell their customers that they had a special event going for ONE DAY in the year?

Whatever...

85 teams this year down from the years when they had around 200. I wonder...?