Why baseball is a f#cking joke...

Your insight is valuable but RUNNING is a TEAM sport. Ask any coach.

It takes time to realize it. But when you do, you never forget.

I am suprised with how many people confuse "keeping fit" with "running"

GEE-WHIZZ wrote:

It's a joke like all American sports because no one else in the world cares about it, so the Yanks crown themselves world champions and absolutely no one else gives 2 shits.

Play football(soccer) and join the big boys, oh you already have tried and fail miserable every year.

Good night

Well, I've seen enough Brits crowned as the "World Champ" of darts to have a good laugh. Enough Yanks are crowned World Champs in track, swimming, gymnastics, etc to show they are a force in "World Sports". Bloody POM you are.

and here come the pretzels wrote:

Who is the greatest American runner ever? Most on Letsrun would say Steve Prefontaine.

No, most of us wouldn't agree.

Uh, the guy said everyone would get a medal, he didn't say that everyone would be credited with the record so your example doesn't work. Noone mentioned breaking a WR so try to stay on the subject.If a pitcher starts a game and leaves when the team is losing (or tied) and the team ends up winning he doesn't get the win either.

Splain this to me wrote:

Sorry, this doesn't work. Let's say athletes A, B, C and D run the prelims and int he final it's A, B, C and F and they break the WR. In the books it doesn't list Athlete D, it lists the guys who actually ran it.

I think the point of the OP is not why they do it (no sh#t they do it to preserve the win - thanks for the clarification), it's just weak that they do.

okay.... wrote:

and here come the pretzels wrote:

Who is the greatest American runner ever? Most on Letsrun would say Steve Prefontaine.

No, most of us wouldn't agree.

You are correct, sir! Everyone here knows that Dean K is the greatest American runner ever. He's the Babe Ruth of running.

Running=Sport

and

Dean K=Babe R

Therefore:

Running=Baseball

and

Baseball=Sport

I have pitched for about 10 years, I'm 20 now, and you are an idiot.

See how your arm feels after throwing 110 pitches as hard as you can.

Go end yourself.

The reason that running does not allow substitutions is that it's supposed to be an endurance sport (and it's not a team sport). Other sports that are not endurance sports and are team sports do allow substitutions. Hockey, soccer, basketball, football, etc all allow athletes to sub out. In fact, I can't think of a single team sport that doesn't allow this.

As for your comment about a pitcher taking a few days off after pitching, runners do the same thing. I mean how often do you run races on back to back days? Do you run 90 races a year?

crisis much wrote:

I have pitched for about 10 years, I'm 20 now, and you are an idiot.

See how your arm feels after throwing 110 pitches as hard as you can.

Go end yourself.

I think you got it backwards. If you're a pitcher surfing letsrun.com maybe you're the one who needs to end yourself.

Pitchers pretty much throw in one form or another every day, from long toss the day or two after starts to 50-pitch side sessions in the bullpen as their next start gets closer. Along with that they do some running and stretching/strength training with resistance bands. Then every fifth day they head out and throw in a game again. It's not like they sit on their tails between starts, it's just that the work they do in between just doesn't have the same intensity.

I used to play baseball. Now, I am a runner. I will say this:

1. Running is much more difficult than baseball. Running takes determination, guts, diligence, and a strong confidence. It is the toughest sport to handle mentally in my mind, because you are constantly pushing yourself to the limit. This is not a factor in baseball, but baseball takes long, hours of repetition and hard work to perfect a certain skill in order to be competitive.

2. Baseball, however, takes much more skill than running. It takes precision, patience, accuracy in all aspects. The ability to throw 80 pitches accurately is found few and far between. Running doesn't even compare with baseball when it comes to the requirement of skill. Though they are two completely different sports, baseball is much harder to be good at.

3. I was a pitcher. Throwing even 80 pitches leaves your arm sore the next day. Pitchers have to let their arm recover for days, because if they didn't, they would get hurt. The reason I quit playing baseball is for that exact reason. I pitched two games too close together and ended up with a stress fracture in my elbow. I was unable to play for 8 months, because I couldn't even swing a bat.

4. Running is one of the most grueling sports you can put your body through. If you give it your all every day, you will always have something on your body that aches and hurts. It is inevitable. Baseball isn't quite this bad, but it is painful at times.

All in all, running is harder on the body. Baseball takes more skill.

The end.

And by the way, I don't want to hear how much skill running requires, because I am a runner. I know what kind of skill it takes to be successful and competitive. But it's not exactly skill. There are no real methods to running. There are running tactics, but those are nothing to compare to the skill required in baseball. Running and baseball are two completely different sports. I love them both. I am better at running. That's why I do it.

youmightbestupid wrote:

And by the way, I don't want to hear how much skill running requires, because I am a runner. I know what kind of skill it takes to be successful and competitive. But it's not exactly skill. There are no real methods to running.

Ah, spoken by someone who has obviously not attempted to incorporate the POSE method of running.

At the recent worlds a 100m sprinter had the excuse of "being tired" after not having run up to par in a final.

The tennis players at the U.S. open could play for up to 8

hours over a 3 day period.

A 68 year runs 2:54 in a Marathon after running a 18+ 5k

the previous evening.

An 86 year old runs 4:34 for a Marathon.

100M Sprinter: Tired?

We have them in our sport too.

A joke-- so far this year USDA has administered 4900 drug tests in T&F alone ....MLBaseball has spent $4900 on testing itself and $3 million crowing about it.

If you knew ANYTHING about sprinting you'd know that your statement is a joke.

Distance running tired and sprinting tired are two completely different things.

Look up central nervous system fatigue and it's effects on trying to perform MAXIMAL effort stuff several days in a row. While your at it, look up muscle tone and see how that has to be adjusted to be spot on.

It's not that HE is necesarily tired, it's that his body is. To be able to sprint optimally/maximally when hundreths of seconds count, all the systems of the body got to be charged and ready to go.

And I'm a distance runner just so you know.

and on the original topic, pitching a baseball is biomechanical hell on your arm compared to a tennis serve. Especially breaking balls.

I understand baseball and pitching. But still, baseball: 1/2 the time you stand around and do nothing, the other 1/2 you sit around and do nothing.

It takes skill, skill I have never had. But, you have to admit- blisters?

Come on runners out there, how many of yo have run when every step burns from the blisters. Wouldn't you feel like a wimp if you didn't run because of a blister.

mcordi wrote:

I understand baseball and pitching. But still, baseball: 1/2 the time you stand around and do nothing, the other 1/2 you sit around and do nothing.

It takes skill, skill I have never had. But, you have to admit- blisters?

Come on runners out there, how many of yo have run when every step burns from the blisters. Wouldn't you feel like a wimp if you didn't run because of a blister.

If it was a position player, maybe. But not for a pitcher. The pain from a blister would probably cause him to change his mechanics and miss his spots, resulting in a very high scoring game and a short outing.

And if it's a blister on his throwing hand, fuggetaboutit. You can't pitch with a blister on your hand.

It's not necessarily a good thing to run on a blister, though we all do it. It causes us to change our mechanics a wee bit, which can lead to a more serious injury.

worst thread ever

Douchebag - where the hell in this thread does it say that it's not hard? Throw 110 pitches, why don't you try serving 130 times and between serves, run around doing forehands and backhands for 3-4hrs instead of standing around or spitting sh#t in the dugout between outings. And oh yeah, get up 7more times over the next 2 weeks and do it again and again and again and again.

Score:

Baseball = 0

Tennis = 1

Hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do in all sports.