Jeremy warner is a jerk

I agree. I've wondered why Wariner hasn't become a huge hit with sponsors, TV exposure, etc. Given his talent and looks I would have thought he would be on every talk show and cereal box in the US by now. Maybe we're beginning to understand why.

It's funny that idiot posters like "the point could be" (who post under five different names), aren't rushing to talk sh!t about Wariner the way they talked sh!t about Tyson Gay and Asafa Powell for not being bestest buddies.

I kind of wish that the whole flag-draping, ultra-nationalism of the major track competitions (world champs and olympics) would go by the wayside (but I know it won't) and just let it be man-to-man competition. This obssessive nationalism detracts from the beauty of the competition.

I agree. I would have guessed that distance runners, more than most people, would focus on individuals rather than national affiliation. I've been surprised by the amount of jingoism expressed on this site.

Toooooooooo much money maybe changing GAMEs into war-like BUSINESS ONLY.OverIdolizing maybe changing athletes perception of themselves; fans and supporters' perception of their modern day fantasy paladins...I like Rugby - but it could easily apply to all games and sports - because there is a culturally rooted "clubhouse overtime" after the game where losers and winners shake hands and have a beer together. I played for several years and learned a lot from facing the competitor and, won or lost, seeing him not just as an opponent but as my human peer. This behaviour is encouraged from the top. Athletes clap each other off the field at the end of a match after some very forceful, tough contact. Country, race have nothing to do with it. Its team vs team; player vs player. Respect is fostered and promoted because you know after the game you are going to have to look each other in the eyes without the protection of game rules. If you played like a jerk, it will sink in much more than it could have with any referee's call.Without it becoming theatrical, i think competitors of all events, all sports should shake hands or nods (like judokas for example) before and after their bouts. It is a duel. There is elimination. But there is no death. And the way to emphatically represent this abstraction, this let-me-call-it survival privilege, could very well be a handshake. The biggest disappointment is to see teams (and countries) divided. But it might just be nature's way of getting her own back... Maybe a little too sophisticated? Simple and direct, agressively impersonal competition might be easier to decipher for everyone's pleasure and sense of affiliation, but for me, i like to keep the big picture in focus...

I have to agree with the first post...Jeremy is a dick...I seen him at a few meets and the dickhead detectors goes off the scale when he's near...

"What's in a name? That which we call a roseBy any other name would smell as sweet." Hey "Stupid Letsrunners", how are you? I am starting to like you.Why do you have this somewhat malicious, offensively aggressive subcarrier in your writing? Making things up? Purposely misunderstandingWanna talk about it? Don't keep it burning inside. That way you get ulcers.By the way: once i chose "the point could be" as my name, i have never changed it. Indeed somebody else could have used it, could be using it, but they could never be me. And that's the beauty of an allegedly anonymous message board.And just in case you miss the point: Jeremy Wariner is most definitely a very gifted runner.

stupid letsrunners wrote:

It's funny that idiot posters like "the point could be" (who post under five different names), aren't rushing to talk sh!t about Wariner the way they talked sh!t about Tyson Gay and Asafa Powell for not being bestest buddies.

Actually, *you* "miss the point." First, I directly refer to his talent in my post. Try reading more slowly if you're getting confused, mmkay? Second, if the "point" has got you confused, try reading the "subject line" of the "original post." Let me help you here: Jemery Wariner is a jerk.

he sounded pretty humble in the 4x4 interview after their win, im not saying he's a great guy all the time but he did admit that his team put him in an awesome position to pull off the win.

Idealist: He and the others represent the U.S.A. The USA send them to the meet - they don't pay their own way. They don't represent themselves. It's called a medal count at the Worlds. This isn't some grand prix meet. Get with the program.

Ah, your bitter gall has settled a little. Questioning, even in a colorful and descriptive way, leaders' perceived, apparent character and behaviour, is not "talking sh!t" as you write. Many posters like to talk about these leaders, like Wariner, like Powell, like Gay, like Webb, like Lagat (and so on and so forth to learn, to emulate possibly, to follow good examples. To avoid bad ones.It looks like you want to talk about the posters, attacking them, so you can be a leader.Repent. Try dialogue. Get a new name. Live Free, Stay Alive.

stupid letsrunners wrote:

... aren't rushing to talk sh!t about Wariner the way they talked sh!t about Tyson Gay and Asafa Powell for not being bestest buddies.

he shouldn't, that cocky A Taylor..said will kick his ass.

jerk, maybe. douchebag, DEFINATELY

legally blond wrote:

Idealist: He and the others represent the U.S.A. The USA send them to the meet - they don't pay their own way. They don't represent themselves. It's called a medal count at the Worlds. This isn't some grand prix meet. Get with the program.

With the exception of the Marathon, there is no "team scoring" by nation in the Worlds, or the Olympics. The medal count is merely the product of spectator's (and the media's) misplaced patriotism.

What, exactly, does a victory in the 400m represent for our nation, anyway? That kind of thinking is what made the Communist nations dope.

The 2008 world champiosnhips were great.

Making hay out of small actions and comments especially right after a world class performance is idiotic. Jeremy is competing agaisnt the other two Americans who believe they can beat him. Jeremy is a world class competitor and probably believes he can say hello to them after retirement.

You mean 2007, right?

I don't necessarily blame Jeremy for what he did. Lashawn Merrit kept saying he was going to beat Jeremy and set a world record etc etc. Jeremy didn't blab back in the media, he just whipped his ass then didn't speak to him afterwards. Thats what I would have done.

However, Al Oeter has a really good quote about competition. Many people want to look at it as you are in competition against each other, but really you are in competition WITH each other. When you're on the track, its time for you to do whats best for you and to kick every bodies ass, but when you're off the track you don't need to be a dick to everybody.

Plus Jeremy Warnier is fast, and I don't care if he's a dick head because he's fast.

Maybe Wariner isn't on TV and cereal boxes because he is busy training to break the world record. Wariner is a bad man (bad = fast) and I love watching the guy run.

mg wrote:

why are people even responding to threads written by the illiterates after they come down from the hills?

Hmmm, I don't know or care. Why don't you tell us why YOU responded?

Yes 2007.

Warner may have bought the other two Americans drinks with umbrelas in them at th bar that night. Not every athelete would agree with Oeter but that is one perspective.

Other runners might need not want to acknowledge their competitors in any way while another race is coming up. It may be part his paln to gain an edge.

I would not call them a dick based on the small amount of info we have after the race. Warner really is something special for US Track and Field.

Wariner truly is a world class, gold medalist jerk - true, but Angelo Taylor is a poor losing, child molesting, bronze medalist jerk who was pissed he didn't "kick Wariner's ass" (his own words).