Computer program to track mileage/workouts

I can't use the graphs either.

I can't use the graphs either.

I have Excel 2002.

When I right click on the empty graphing area, I get an about screen that says:

Microsoft Office Web Components

Version 9.0.0.2710

etc.

What version of Excel were you running when you made the program? I can get my hands on any version necessary, I would like to see the graphs.

If you think we can resolve this over email or IM or something let me know in a reply on this board, but im not going to post my email for obvious reasons.

Do you have Excel? If so, what version? And what happens when you try to graph something? Does a dialog come up at all, or does it look like it's coming up and then nothing happens?

No I don't have Excel. Sorry, should have mentioned that.

The cost looked pricey on the Microsoft site, but guess I'll buy it or have no graphs. Very cool program!

add fartleck, speed and steady run for sure. It should include all of these:

rest

recovery

distance

steady

fartleck

hills

tempo

intervals

speed

timetrial

race

akevdog wrote:

Hey,

Ok, it sounds like the evidence is overwhelming for reducing the mandatory parts of the data entry.

Kevin

Mandatating things is a no-no.

Instead the program should start out with a reasonable default set.

Then the user should be able to create customized entry data form(s) as suites his needs and save the stuff so that he can reload any of his settings including the default one.

Many of us have legacy data that we might like to read in.

As a delimitted ascii, fixed format or some other form.

no graphs man: you can go to my site (www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~weil) and grab either my email or AIM id from the contact page. Feel free to use either... I've been looking around all morning trying to see how to distribute these graphing components with the program. (Trying to figure out legality, etc..) If we get in touch, we can try some things and maybe get it working for you and Jim777 and a couple others that had problems graphing. If we can't, I'm considering buying a graphing componenet that someone has already made (www.teemach.com has a good one). The only problem is that they're expensive -- like 360 bucks -- and I don't know if I can afford it. If I could, though, it would solve everyone's graphing problems...

uninvited: read the earlier parts of the forum, dude :) Like I've been saying, I'm working really hard right now on changing it to allow the user full control over what parts are mandatory and what parts aren't. You will just check a checkbox to, say, make it mandatory to enter post-workout weight for running and then uncheck one to make it not mandatory to enter heart rate information for swimming workouts.

As for entering in old data, I'm not sure how viable that would be. I mean, everyone has their old data in a different format, and I couldn't make something to read in everyone's format (this is a program I work on in my spare time for free, remember). I'd have to make a format to read in myself, and odds are it would be different from 99% of the formats out there. You'd have to rearrange your format then, and it would be just as much or more work (and certainly more error-prone) than just entering in all your old data in TriathLog like normal. I've been doing it, and it's not the most exciting part of my day, but it seems like the only viable option. I'm sorry, I'm just totally swamped with requests for features, and unless I get paid to do this as a job, I can only do it in my free time :) So that's my two cents on this issue, but like anything else, it's open to more discussion.

Thanks for all the input, everybody, I really do value it.

Kevin

I'd like to graph my improvements vs my epo use.

Is there a way to record epo dosage in the program.

Otherwise looks good. Will report back after I use it a bit.

akevdog,

Ignore the idiots. Your plans for customization look good. Two other thoughts: have you thought about adding a box for strides, which would also total into the miles for the day. Also, although the notes section works well for adding the exact details of a day's workout, you don't really have a formatted way to record the details of an interval or a tempo session. For example, let's say that I do 4 x 4 miles @ 5:20 pace w/ 5 minutes rest. I could enter this as 16 miles @ 5:20 pace but THAT doesn't really record what I've done. Same with 5 x 1 mile @ 4:50 pace w/ 3 minutes rest. I can note it but not record it. In short, you might want to think about a subroutine inside the loop for tempo or interval that allows for recording distance of repeat, time of repeat, time of rest, and so on. Obviously this will only work well for workouts where every repeat is the same distance. Unless it was really picayune. Well, there's the fantasy request. And can I have a Boston Creme Pie please?

CE

also with the intervals. Some days I do 3x800 and then 6x400. Is there any way you could make it so that we could add more than one distance of intervals. Some days I do ladders with six or more distances.

Hi,

I've thought about doing that for a while, but I haven't figured out a nice way to actually put that into the program (in terms of me writing the code). I hope to have that eventually, but for now, that's what the "display name" and notes are for. If you want to see it in the calendar, make the display name "Intervals [4x600, 3x800]" instead of the default "Intervals". That's why I added the display feature, so that you could a little description or whatever you wanted to the calendar display of the workout. Then just put the exact description in your notes, and you can view it later with the view day summary option. It's not ideal, I know. It's on my list of things to change, but I doubt it'll happen before school starts. I've just got too many other requests, sorry..

Looks great so far. Thanks for sharing. If you ever think about converting for other operating systems, don't forget PalmOS. It would be great to be able to enter data using my palm and then synch with my pc. Just a thought. Thanks again!

hey no graphs man: I can't seem to find you online when I check... maybe drop me an email and we can communicate that way? (get my email from

www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~weil

). I'm curious to try something. I don't think it'll work, but if it does it would let everyone graph without problems... anyway, later :)

oh, and an update: i have all the units stuff (switching between metric system and not per sport, plus weight optionally in kg, height in cm, and stuff) working now, and i'm almost there with making all the data fields optionally non-mandatory. that'll maybe be done in 2-3 days, and then i'll need a few days to test. i might spend some extra time adding a couple other things people have asked for before i put out the new release, but i'll have something before september 10 for sure.

kevin

Quality program from what I've seen. I was wondering when the printing feature will be added (assuming that you will add it). That's what I really want and think that the program needs to be more useful. Thanks.

what's the database struxture?

i'd like to create one from my legacy data.

which routine writes the databese?

Hey,

It's a pretty easy file format. I would say download the program and check it out for yourself -- it's just a text file that looks a little like xml, basically (though no schema or anything, it's just html markup with my own tags/values/etc). If you use the program to write out the workouts you're interested in, you can just look at the saved file you generate and then write some code to take what you have and make one that looks like my format. It's not true xml though (yet), so right now the order is important (ie if my file writes seconds before miles, you would need to as well). If you're looking through my actual code, it's in XmlSerializer.cpp, which is called from CUtil::SaveXml I believe.

If you have any questions, feel free to email me about this.

Kevin

Hi, a quick update: the new release is coming very soon! I think I'm done with all the major coding now, and I'm just testing everything. I hope to have the new one ready to download by the middle of the week. The file format has changed slightly (because I have to store more information, like which units are being used and which fields are mandatory in each sport), but it will read in your current files and automatically convert. I'll post the link to the new one in a few days.

Just out of curiosity -- when I first released this thing, the response was pretty positive. How many of you are still using it? :) Which features are really annoying, which are missing? What do you really like about it? I'd love to hear new comments now that some of you have used it for a couple weeks. Thanks!

Kevin

hi, i am from europe and have been using the program. i like it lots but am looking forward to using my own units! but thanks for making this!