Employment > $100K

quote: My 2 cents: it isn't right that flight attendants are paid double what good teachers are paid"

-why isn't it right? if swa flight attendants do a good enough job to keep passengers happy and coming back, and southwest airlines is profitable enough to pay their flight-attendants their current salaries, why not? how much is a teacher supposed to make? who's supposed to come up with the extra money to pay teachers more? increased taxes? personal donations? i certainly respect teachers/educators but the cold hard reality of our system and society is that teachers don't do anything that directly brings in money. i-bankers generate fees for their respective banks, doctors/dentists do procedures to bring in money, car salesmen sell cars and get a cut etc. etc. etc.

imo, teachers have an incredibly difficult and important job but they don't generate direct income and their wages are somewhat at the whim of the gov't(local/state).

ridgeracr wrote:

quote: My 2 cents: it isn't right that flight attendants are paid double what good teachers are paid"

teacher's pay is much better than it seems when you consider retirement. say a flight attendant works 40 years, then retires, they're done making money. the teacher continues recieving most their salary once they retire. if you work 40 years, then get 20 years retirement pay its like getting paid an additional 50%.

Highest paid teachers ~ 75k. With retirement (and don't forget vacations, great benefits etc) is probably equivalent to >100k in private sector.

if you have time would you want to help answer some questions about this? I really want to get into that business but only on the side, not full time. thanks

Bend, Oregon

Systems Manager

Yes, I love my job.

Hedge fund trader living in CT. It's an exciting/interesting job, good hours for finance (7:30-4:45ish). Pays very well. I enjoy it now while i'm in my mid 20's but wont be doing it when i'm 45, too much stress.

the majority of male flight attendents are homosexuals. this is not a stereotype, but a statistical truth. most homosexual men are actually quite well paid and working in positions of responsibility, many of them business owners. a male flight attendent making over 100K a year is doing a lot of sitting on the captains lap or something...

if you do want to earn a lot of money, homosexuality seems your best bet.

My wife teaches high school in Lodi California. $72,000 a year on 180 days per year. Teaching is hard work, kids (and parents) can be difficult, but $72,000 is not that bad. My sister is a pediatrician, made $105,000 working 250 days/year. She has more stress and 7 more years of training.

Washington DC IT audit 7 years later 110 K without bonus

Started with Big 5 at 45k.

Its a good job. Nobody likes auditors but i enjoy the work because its fairly easy and stable as a result of the Sarbanes Oxley Act. Going forward work is declining.. but its always in demand.

I have my own business and project $300,000 this year. I live in the upper Midwest in a smallish city so expenses are not too bad.

flight attendents??? wrote:

if you do want to earn a lot of money, homosexuality seems your best bet.

I don't think that homosexuals earn more. I think that heterosexual women spend more of the money that heterosexual men earn.

Strategy consulting

Great job in theory. Hate it in reality...

B.S. in Civil Engineering. Went back to school part time for my M.Eng. in Environmental Engineering while working (took 4 years). Took the EIT and PE over the last two years. Three jobs total over seven years. First for a government agency as a regulator(1.5 years), next two at two different consulting companies (3.5 years and 2 years at each).

The big raises came each time I switched jobs, right after my masters, and right after my PE. I worked hard over the course of my career to build contacts and create a network. I think that network helped a lot with the last big raise when I changed jobs two years ago and will help in the future when I eventually go out on my own.[/quote]

Wow. I have a B.S. in civil engineering and my job offers ranged from 35,000 to 42,000 last year. My salary would need to nearly triple to get 100K$. The lessons here are networking, (I don't work hard at this because I do not enjoy the smell of everyone else's ass, but its likely hurting my demand), certifications, (someday) and grad school (be an expert in a specific field).

My bad... above post was meant to quote, and be in response to Anon PE. Only 3rd paragraph is mine.

Hospitalist Doc

$325K

Great, rewarding gig, lots of time spent in education

$100K for nine months (not including bennies), $133K if I work 12 months, which I usually do.

Science professor, mid-sized western US university. Would not trade my job for anything - love it. But, I've doing it close to 20 years, and started at $30K. The nice thing now is that I have an extra $12K tossed into retirement on top of this (for 9 months, $15K for 12). I work very hard, but have a very flexible schedule. One of the nicest things is that I'm evaluated by what I accomplish, and not by the amount of time I put in. I play a little on the computer, but very little. I see a lot of people "working" but all they are doing is surfing the internet for hours. Went to college 4 years for a BS, 3 for an MS and 2 more for a PhD. I'm mid-40's now.

finance boy wrote:

Hedge fund trader living in CT. It's an exciting/interesting job, good hours for finance (7:30-4:45ish). Pays very well. I enjoy it now while i'm in my mid 20's but wont be doing it when i'm 45, too much stress.

finance boy,

Did you start out as a salesman or trader for one of the ibanks? If so, why did you decide to make the switch to the client side?

Teachers get paid well for working 180 days a year...OK, maybe a few more due to planning and whatnot in the few weeks before classes. Teachers shouldn't bitch about not being paid well. You have the strongest union in the nation, you are off for 2-3 months a year, etc. Flight attendants have a semi-dangerous job (crash and burn, hijack, etc). Dangerous jobs are paid well. Crab fishermen in Alaska make more money than anyone, including doctors, and they don't work the entire year. Ditto for working on an oil refinery.

Regional Fitness Specialist, BS, 26.5k. Even the Director of the facility makes under 35k. I'm in the wrong field for money, but I wouldn't want to do anything else. Thought about personal training, but you get no benefits and taxes are a bitch.

Alan

San Francisco/Silicon Valley

Visual Designer

BA Design, BS Computer Science, MS Human-Computer Interaction.

Yes. Best job and company ever.

This is an idiotic statement on myriad levels. Crab fisherman make more money than Bill Gates? They make more money than the CEO of a Fortune 500 company? They make more money than the top orthopedic sports surgeon? Doctors are the standard by which all other salaries are set?About the flight attendant thing as well, is OTR trucking considered a dangerous job? I guess they should be making the $100,000 since it's far, far more likely to get killed in an auto accident than a plane crash.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Crab fishermen in Alaska make more money than anyone, including doctors, and they don't work the entire year.

Alan