Scottish Indepednce will happen

My Scotland excludes England

Unfortunately, England + Wales + Scotland are ONE COUNTRY now - GREAT BRITAIN. They're just seperate REGIONS as far as the rest of the world is concerned.

There will be no seperation from Scotland. Sorry.

I'm not sure which hill top you've been hiding on but Ireland is already a seperate nation. It has been for quite a few years now. I would challenge you to ask any Irishman if his nation was still being ruled by London. If you mean Northern Ireland, then perhaps you should ask the residents what they would like. If they want to stay apart of the UK then should be allowed to. If they want to form their own country then should be allowed to. However, they should not be forced to join Ireland as one nation. As for Scotland, you can go ahead and seperate. However you can forget about the millions in aid that English tax payers send your way each year. As for the oil, it may very well have a Scottish flag but the projects were funded using English taxpayers money. Once you pay that back, you're welcome to the dwindelling supplies. Have a nice day.

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There is no way England can handle another Ireland. They would step back and make a deal for oil and accept that their time is done as a ruler of other nations.

The Scots are damned pissed that their boys were sent to a war that the Scots feel is illegal. The Scots want the nuclear sub out as well.

Once Scotland goes so goes Ireland and it wont be violent.

The bit of Ireland that's separate is not a nation. Part of Ireland is still controlled by Britain. Therefore Ireland is not free. That a majority of people there want to stay controlled by Britain doesn not make it right. If I led a group of people onto your land and outnumbered your family would I have the right ot control it?

Would the oil projects not have been funded by "UK" taxes i.e. england, Scotland Wales, Northern Ireland - why do you only mention england?

What are you talking about? The bit of Ireland that is seperate is not a nation? What the hell is it then? Ireland is a seperate nation, it has been for years. Yes, part of the island is still under British control and the whole thing is a mess but that doesn't make Ireland not a nation. Do I think Northern Ireland should have independence? You bet. But do I think they should be forced to join Ireland? No I don't.The vast majority of taxpayers in the UK are English. Therefore the majority of any public project in the UK is funded mostly by English tax payers. Funny how you don't comment on the millions of pounds in 'aid' that Scotland recieves every year from London.Don't get me wrong. I love the Scottish. I am part Scottish. But you are greatly mistaken if you think that Scotland would be better off as a seperate nation. But if that's what the majority of citizens want, then go for it. Same for Northern Ireland and the Welsh too.

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The bit of Ireland that's separate is not a nation. Part of Ireland is still controlled by Britain. Therefore Ireland is not free. That a majority of people there want to stay controlled by Britain doesn not make it right. If I led a group of people onto your land and outnumbered your family would I have the right ot control it?

Would the oil projects not have been funded by "UK" taxes i.e. england, Scotland Wales, Northern Ireland - why do you only mention england?

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For you to think Scotland cant succeed is foolish on your part. You seem to think your a know it all on both Ireland and Scotland when your views are old and outdated{but their yours so its ok}. Scotland can and will succeed. Also Scotland wont pay a penny...not a penny to England for Scottish oil.

Englands days are numbered in NI. This can and will happen peacefully as those loyal to the queen will watch Scotland seperate and come to their senses that the days of England forcing its will upon the Irish are over. Ireland will be one nation and England will watch Ireland and the Scots pass them in terms of quality of life.Ireland is already a better place to live then England. Get your own soldiers and stop asking the Scots to fight for your bs wars. Take your submarine with you on your way out.

Best of luck to you, but don't forget: No more handouts!

Sean Middleton,

This isn't complicated. The folks with the inky thumbs want to be free and have voted as such in huge numbers.

On the other side are medieval maniacs who want to establish a theocracy abetted by European Marxists who are helping to turn Europe and especially Britain into Eurabia.

The inky thumb crowd and the coalition are killing by the bushel those who would kill Scots by the millions.

It is certainly reasonable to argue whether this war was the best strategy in the war on Islamo-leftists. There is, however, no argument as to which side is totalitarian.

Do you truly confuse liberal democracy and sharia law?

Calling the coalition totalitarians is as absurd as calling the fighters in the Warsaw ghetto the aggressors against the Nazis.

And the UN? It is the 15 or so resolutions that the UN refused to enforce that led to this confrontation. Debatable war yes; illegal, hardly.

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What are you talking about? The bit of Ireland that is seperate is not a nation? What the hell is it then? Ireland is a seperate nation, it has been for years. Yes, part of the island is still under British control and the whole thing is a mess but that doesn't make Ireland not a nation. Do I think Northern Ireland should have independence? You bet. But do I think they should be forced to join Ireland? No I don't.

Ireland is not a separate nation. Ireland is the whole island & the surrounding islands. It is not a separate nation. A sizeable part of it is controlled by people who are not Irish. There are two different governments in operation here so it's not a separate nation.

The vast majority of taxpayers in the UK are English. Therefore the majority of any public project in the UK is funded mostly by English tax payers.

Correct me if I'm wrong but would that not be due to the fact that the vast majority of people are from England? Would income from Scottish, Welsh and Northern Ireland based taxpayers not go towards predominantly english spending i.e. roads, healthcare, welfare etc.?

Funny how you don't comment on the millions of pounds in 'aid' that Scotland recieves every year from London.

I'm not Scottish, I didn't comment on the Scottish situation, only the Irish one. I asked one question relating to Scotland.

Don't get me wrong. I love the Scottish. I am part Scottish. But you are greatly mistaken if you think that Scotland would be better off as a seperate nation. But if that's what the majority of citizens want, then go for it. Same for Northern Ireland and the Welsh too.

I don't know much about whether Scotland would be better off without england but if their withdrawing meant one less country was part of the war of terror then that would be a good thing surely?

The majority of people in Ireland want a united independant country. From my experience of english, scottish and welsh people, they seem to think Ireland should be one united country. So, it would appear that the majority of people it affects want a united Ireland.

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"However you can forget about the millions in aid that English tax payers send your way each year"

Matt - don't believe all the hype from English politicians. Look at the figures thoroughly before espousing the "aid" issue. Fact is, if we were that expensive to England, they'd get shot of us - why bother with the cost? But I guess both countries will be in the queue behind Turkey for the EU, right?!