LOUISVILLE vs RUTGERS - MAKE YOUR PICK

If Rutgers wins out they'll be the Big East Champion and because of BCS rules would be in automatically. Boise State would have to finish in the top 12 or 16 of the BCS to go to a BCS bowl. Also, the ACC champ goes too...no matter how bad they are. Darn those rules!!!

Remember, there are 4 BCS games with 6 auto bids...champs of Big10, Big12, BEast, SEC, Pac10, ACC. So 2 bids are basically up for grabs. If Boise finishes in the top 16...which it appears they will...they'll go to a BCS bowl because they are ahead of the ACC champ.

So right now it would be:

Michigan or Ohio State

Texas

UofL or WVU or Rutgers

Florida or Auburn

USC

Georgia Tech

Boise State

So, it looks to me that the loser of Michigan/Ohio State would get the 8th slot...leaving two Big East teams and one SEC team out to dry because of the stupid BCS rules.

They way it looks right now, UofL will have to win out and hope WVU beats Rutgers...but not by much. UofL then would likely remain ahead of WVU in the BCS and given the BEast's bid. I think UofL finishing the season with a road win @ Pitt is a bigger finish than WVU sneaking past Rutgers at home. So the BCS bowls would be:

Ohio State vs Florida

Michigan vs Texas

Louisville vs USC

Georgia Tech vs Boise State

I really would like to see Texas jump Florida for the #2 so I can see Louisville vs Florida..:)

If Louisville is Big East Champ then there is no way they should be dropped into a game with a lesser conference champ (Boise State) or the floundering ACC champ. How about Louisville vs Michigan? and Texas vs USC. They make a little more sense geographically.

Alan

There are 5 BCS games if memory serves. Sugar, Fiesta, Orange, Rose and then the BCS Championship game.

Mtn Dew wrote:

There are 5 BCS games if memory serves. Sugar, Fiesta, Orange, Rose and then the BCS Championship game.

You should probably stop posting in this thread now.

FYI: Cal is 7-0 in the Pac-10. USC is 6-1 and they play eachother on the 18th of Nov for all the (conference) marbles.

are you serious? you have this whole scenario played out but you're completely forgetting to account for one of the BCS games. There are 5 games, with 6 auto qualifiers (conf champs). That leaves 4 at large, which will likely go to Mich/OSU loser, a second SEC team, Boise St., and then possibly Notre Dame.

Also, if 3 Big East teams all finish with one loss, there is a tie breaker in place to determine who is the conference champion. I'm not sure what that tie break is, but it's certainly not decided by who is ranked higher in the BCS! If Rutgers were to win the tie break, they would go to the BCS regardless of their ranking.

Haven't read the whole thread so sorry if this has been mentioned already. Why should Michigan necessarily drop out of second if they lose? If they lose a tight game in Columbus they might have the "best" lose of all the one lose teams. Or does it boil down to the old early season lose vs late season debate? Heard arguments for all sorts of scenarios on Mike&Mike the other morning. This all fuels my opinion that there will never be a football play-off. Because all the end of season banter and hype would diminish drastically. I think this is what the BCS loves to hear, all the "what if" talk.

Runningart2004 wrote:

So, it looks to me that the loser of Michigan/Ohio State would get the 8th slot...leaving two Big East teams and one SEC team out to dry because of the stupid BCS rules.

Are you honestly trying to make an argument that their should be three Big East teams in BCS games? The Big East has 8 football teams including the powerhouses: South Florida, Uconn, Syracuse, and Cinncinnati! It's a gift that an 8 team league with no perennially great football teams has an automatic BCS birth.

Mtn Dew wrote:

There are 5 BCS games if memory serves. Sugar, Fiesta, Orange, Rose and then the BCS Championship game.

Wrong wrote:

You should probably stop posting in this thread now.

I hope you realize that there are 5 BCS games starting this year.

uh, Losersville probably couldn't even win their former conference, C-USA. I'd take UTEP over them at home and possibly Tulsa.

Funny you said that because I heard the same lines on Mike and Mike in the morning. Are you going to plagerize the whole thing or do you have an original idea up there?

Wrong wrote:

You should probably stop posting in this thread now.

Why, are you saying there aren't 5 BCS games this year?

It's somewhat confusing regarding who goes where. For example, the SEC winner is supposed to be in the Sugar Bowl but if that team is in the BCS championship the Sugar bowl gets to pick another at large team to fill the void. There's a lot to it. There are 12 teams that will play in BCS games, the top two will be be in the BCS championship and then there are conference tie ins with the others plus several at-large bids, which is how Boise State may get in.

SCratch that, there are TEN teams playing in BCS bowls, not 12. I got a lil confused by it all.

ph wrote:

Funny you said that because I heard the same lines on Mike and Mike in the morning. Are you going to plagerize the whole thing or do you have an original idea up there?

I don't even know who the hell Mike and Mike are. I don't have cable tv and don't watch ESPN or whatever, sorry.

What I do is that Rutgers and Boise State have no business being in a BCS game even if they are undefeated. You can't make an argument for either of these teams when you've got teams that play in real conferences sitting there with one loss. Put Boise State in the Pac-10 for a year or the Big Ten and see how they fare. Yeah, I thought so.

M&M is actually a radio show, it just happens to be aired on cable also. So technically you don't need cable or even a tv to hear their program. But you still may have had the same thoughts first. Just because it's said on M&M doesn't mean it's said there first.

could be telling the truth wrote:

But you still may have had the same thoughts first. Just because it's said on M&M doesn't mean it's said there first.

I'm sure there are a lot of people thinking it. Just because a team is undefeated does not mean they are BCS worthy. If Ball State goes undefeated next year, do they get a BCS bid?

If Rutgers wins out, and I think they will lose at WVU, they would have beaten two top ten teams in the last month of the year. I don't think they'll be deserving of anational championship game berth, but they should be deserving of a BCS game (which they would get anyway) and I think they'd fair pretty well. As is L'ville will represent the Big East in their BCS game. Looks like a 11-1 WVu team will be left out of a major bowl.

My bad...there are 5 BCS games this year.

Also, Big East Tie Breaker Rules:

3-way tie:

You would first compare the records of the teams against each other. If WVU beats Rutgers then each team would be 1-1. After that it goes to the BCS.

WVU is ranked 10th right now in the BCS, UofL 3rd. I don't see a 3 pt road loss dropping UofL under WVU so...

If Louisville wins out and WVU beats Rutgers UofL will mostly likely be the Big East Champion. A WVU win over Rutgers at home won't leap them ahead of Louisville if Louisville keeps on winning, especially that little road game at PITT.

Alan

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ChuckS wrote:

T-man wrote:

[quote]ChuckS wrote:

Get 'em Chuck (superfluously? that's lots of syllables for a letsrun takedown - better dumb it down for the audience)!

Hope all's good.

Now, who called UL? please, bitches. nobody's getting thru that rutgers d we saw in the 2nd half. the adjustments they made at the half show that they have the smart coaches and players with the heart to not let down when they could have. Go RU!!!

T-man: word. All is well; I've made $40 bucks now from this clown Alex who keeps betting against us...ha!

How's W-field and Geiger these days? :) Still running?

Go Rutgers....and the heck with all the naysayers and disbelievers. They're awefully quiet now.... especially "Alex"!!!

If you're that confident in your team why don't you double down with me against West Virginia? And perhaps you should spend less time talking shit on letsrun and more time figuring out a way to beat me in a race. What is it 4-0 on the year now Chucky boy?