d2 poll out-adams no respect and ashland too much

Ashland is a good team. Not that good. Right now they have 3 guys in their top 7 running, well at least running full go. That will change. Just curious, were would you put them. I see them around 15th or so. The season is early and there are plenty of good teams out there but the question is who will be ready to go when it counts. Personally, UC davis is ranked too high in my opinion as well.

Without a doubt Adams is under-ranked. They should be no worse than 3rd. Doug Watts of Edinboro does the rankings and I'm not sure what he's thinking here. Not sure on the rest. Davis does have quite a few solid performers on their squad. Lot's of substantial track PR's and a few XC AA returners, but they've yet to perform up to their capabilities on the national stage in XC. We'll see....

Edinboro will be there in the end, their coach knows this, it will be a miracle if they do not get out of the east region. The great lakes has 6 teams fighting for two spots. Hillsdale has 3 guys sub 31 10k, Southern Indiana is good too. This is the deepest region. Mountain region has solid top 2 teams. West region is good too.

um although im sure most would argue with me, but im saying right now chico is way ranked waay too low. id put them ahead of davis for sure. davis is solid but chico has some freakin depth even with the loss of that good looking stud that finished in the top 20 last year at nats. id say they are a top 5 team for sure. they have perhaps the most talented teams from the number 1 to 12 or so in the nation for division 2.

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No one will disrupt Western, Abilene, and Adams from being top 3 on the mens side. As far as womens I hope they just forgot the Adams women or people are just plain dumb. No Cali teams will finish in the top 3 maybe ever.

adams is no means a lock for third. there are a couple of teams who could beat them if they ran great. i know a couple of teams have some incomers who will make a solid impact. chico is good on paper, but uc davis is better. at the start of every season, you have some chico pele come on here and talk smack about how they will whoop davis, but they never beat them at nats when it counts. the poll has its fair share of mistakes, but once the teams get in some big meets, we will see what everyone has.

He thinks Polls are a joke and worthless. We never knew there was such a thing when I was at the boro, how in the world can a poll take on one iota of importance? WIn your region, go to nationals and race, add up the scores.

I hope they prove to be better than 5th but don\'t count on it.

they didnt run all their studs and im sure it was at altitude. they always show up for nats.

Kennesaw may be better as they sucked up most of the NAIA's Kenyans from Life.

Who from DII will be at Griak. Western and Adams (and #1 NAIA Minot) were rebuffed by a fickle Plascencia into the purple race. Plas didn't want the non-DI competition. It'll be hard enough for him to hold onto a DI ranking anyway even with a boatload of talent and boatload of money. Good runner, not so good coach.

Oh well, insecurities....

i run for one of the teams listed and Lowell i know for a fact is better then 10th best in the country. i would say easily a top 5-6 team

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Adams is a clear 3rd a year ago, lose only number 7 off of that team, and is ranked 5th this year. "Adams is no means a lock for 3rd". Your right, they might move up. In the last 6 years, the WORST they have finished was 3rd, and last year was a rebuilding year from the six seniors they had the year before. Come on people, Western is a clear #1 right now, but show some respect for a team that has won that many national titles.

Just a thought, did whoever does the womens poll forget that Adams still has womens team, or do they really believe that they aren't a top 25 team?

Western is by no means a clear lock for 1st right now. Have some respect for a team that has everyone back and healthy. They may have a lot of foreign talent but they also had a guy who is probably their 6th man who is American and who finished mid 30's in cali and mid 20's last year at the rock. They should be number one.

They lost their number 4 too.

Western is clearly the team to beat.

Isnt the coach that coaches Deena Drossin the same coach that won all those titles for Adams State.

I don't know about Ashland being overrated, but i definitely would agree that Adams State is underrated. however, i think it's TRUMAN STATE that is truly getting no respect in this poll. The dogs might not be able to repeat last season's top 4 finish, but i garauntee you they will be top 25 at least. in my humble opinion, anyone who disputes that is an idiot.

truman is good but im not sure how much firepower they have after losing one of their front runners. umass may be a team on the rise and should be top 10, but no way will they be 5th or 6th. they have over 40 guys on their roster, but not sure how much they can put up front id list my top 10 something like this:

1.western, 2.abilene, 3.adams, 4.uc-davis, 5.harding, 6.sd state, 7.kennesaw, 8.chico, 9.umass, 10.truman

you've got the truman bulldogs ranked right about where i'd put 'em, so i can't complain there. but i am curious to here your reasoning for ranking chico as low as 8 and schools such as your own as high as 5. no offense meant here, i just don't know much about harding, sd state, kennesaw, etc.. where did you guys finish last year at nat's, who are your top returnees...