Instead you'll find plenty of hobby joggers on here claiming that it's their slow-twitch dominant genes preventing them from putting together a couple 34s splits in a row. How about put in the bare minimum amount of effort into strength training, speed work, etc. and you'll realize why essentially every elite or near-elite distance runner can run 52s or better. Your 5K, 10K, etc. will all certainly improve in the process btw. Godspeed!
Instead you'll find plenty of hobby joggers on here claiming that it's their slow-twitch dominant genes preventing them from putting together a couple 34s splits in a row. How about put in the bare minimum amount of effort into strength training, speed work, etc. and you'll realize why essentially every elite or near-elite distance runner can run 52s or better. Your 5K, 10K, etc. will all certainly improve in the process btw. Godspeed!
Yes, totally.
And on the flip side, all of these "athletes" running around that can't break 70 because it's too far really have very little business telling themselves how athletic they are.
True story, when I was in grad school, I had to teach some classes as part of my GA duties. I had one class called something like "pre ski conditioning" (I was in Utah and people wanted to get in shape for ski season during the fall quarter, I guess). We did a fitness pre test: Push Ups, Sit Ups, etc. One of the measurements was the 400. The top guys in the class only ran 72 and these were guys who considered themselves to be good athletes.
In the 1970s and 1980s, Gen X was raised on the President's challenge fitness tests. Every few years in school, everyone was tested in 6 fitness events. If you could score 85% percentile or better on all 6, you got the presidential patch.
One of the events was a 600 yard run. 85th percentile for 18 year olds was 1:35. That's 69 second 400 pace for 548 meters. So something above 15% could surely do 69 for just 400 meters. Not sure if it's 50% though.
Strangely enough, the stats went way down for college age. A lot of people stop with all fitness and get drunk, heavy and weak. Or skinny teens fill out with upper body weight and are no longer so fast. Running isn't everything
Instead you'll find plenty of hobby joggers on here claiming that it's their slow-twitch dominant genes preventing them from putting together a couple 34s splits in a row. How about put in the bare minimum amount of effort into strength training, speed work, etc. and you'll realize why essentially every elite or near-elite distance runner can run 52s or better. Your 5K, 10K, etc. will all certainly improve in the process btw. Godspeed!
Don't think I can even run a 17.5 second 100m right now. I am proud of this
Instead you'll find plenty of hobby joggers on here claiming that it's their slow-twitch dominant genes preventing them from putting together a couple 34s splits in a row. How about put in the bare minimum amount of effort into strength training, speed work, etc. and you'll realize why essentially every elite or near-elite distance runner can run 52s or better. Your 5K, 10K, etc. will all certainly improve in the process btw. Godspeed!
Yes, totally.
And on the flip side, all of these "athletes" running around that can't break 70 because it's too far really have very little business telling themselves how athletic they are.
True story, when I was in grad school, I had to teach some classes as part of my GA duties. I had one class called something like "pre ski conditioning" (I was in Utah and people wanted to get in shape for ski season during the fall quarter, I guess). We did a fitness pre test: Push Ups, Sit Ups, etc. One of the measurements was the 400. The top guys in the class only ran 72 and these were guys who considered themselves to be good athletes.
Wild story! I figured there'd be more agreement on here about the "too big" to run sub-70s crowd which probably represents your average male gym goer these days.
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70s 400m? Let me guess, you just ran a 69s all out didn't you?
Should be 60 seconds, actually for that age bracket. A weakling who jogs all day and can't run sub 60 is not an athletic individual either.
Your IQ is at that point where the state could not execute you if you committed a capital offense. Probably 1-2/500 40 year old men can break 60 seconds for 400m.
Instead you'll find plenty of hobby joggers on here claiming that it's their slow-twitch dominant genes preventing them from putting together a couple 34s splits in a row. How about put in the bare minimum amount of effort into strength training, speed work, etc. and you'll realize why essentially every elite or near-elite distance runner can run 52s or better. Your 5K, 10K, etc. will all certainly improve in the process btw. Godspeed!
Should be 60 seconds, actually for that age bracket. A weakling who jogs all day and can't run sub 60 is not an athletic individual either.
Your IQ is at that point where the state could not execute you if you committed a capital offense. Probably 1-2/500 40 year old men can break 60 seconds for 400m.
70s 400m? Let me guess, you just ran a 69s all out didn't you?
Should be 60 seconds, actually for that age bracket. A weakling who jogs all day and can't run sub 60 is not an athletic individual either.
Have to agree Steve.Back in our days in the club our coach doesn't let you put on spike if you cannot run sub 60s 400m. 16-18 boys 800-1500m. Heck, he doesn't let you run on track at all if you cannot do that. You could run with the rest in the forest,fire roads etc. till you EARN it.
I always suspect that there are plenty of adult runners who can run a 5k at 90 seconds per lap, but they can't break 80 in a 400.
They worry about their mileage, but they fail to understand that the limiting factor is their terrible speed. It's something they can easily fix within a few months.
I always suspect that there are plenty of adult runners who can run a 5k at 90 seconds per lap, but they can't break 80 in a 400.
They worry about their mileage, but they fail to understand that the limiting factor is their terrible speed. It's something they can easily fix within a few months.
In the late 1980s the President allowed the mile as an alternative to the 600. 85th percentile was significantly slower than 6 minutes, i.e 90 second pace. Certainly 18:45 is harder than that.
Instead you'll find plenty of hobby joggers on here claiming that it's their slow-twitch dominant genes preventing them from putting together a couple 34s splits in a row. How about put in the bare minimum amount of effort into strength training, speed work, etc. and you'll realize why essentially every elite or near-elite distance runner can run 52s or better. Your 5K, 10K, etc. will all certainly improve in the process btw. Godspeed!
"A sub-70s 400m should be a completely uncontroversial standard of athleticism for men 70 y/o." There. Fixed it.
I always suspect that there are plenty of adult runners who can run a 5k at 90 seconds per lap, but they can't break 80 in a 400.
They worry about their mileage, but they fail to understand that the limiting factor is their terrible speed. It's something they can easily fix within a few months.
Lol, I can run 80 seconds laps for 5k but I've only ever run 71 for an all-out 400. As you might guess, I have a woefully poor kick at the end of races
Your IQ is at that point where the state could not execute you if you committed a capital offense. Probably 1-2/500 40 year old men can break 60 seconds for 400m.
Should be 60 seconds, actually for that age bracket. A weakling who jogs all day and can't run sub 60 is not an athletic individual either.
Have to agree Steve.Back in our days in the club our coach doesn't let you put on spike if you cannot run sub 60s 400m. 16-18 boys 800-1500m. Heck, he doesn't let you run on track at all if you cannot do that. You could run with the rest in the forest,fire roads etc. till you EARN it.
You're right, they shouldn't put on spikes before sub-60s since that's where actual track speed begins (or middle/high school track). But I'm talking gen. population, especially folks from other sports who consider themselves to be "fit". You can be at tight end size and still put together a 68s effort if you're decently fit.
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