Incredible run by Ruthe, pipping Sam Tanner who ran 1:45.94, both PBs!
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GreatDane1 wrote:
Incredible run by Ruthe, pipping Sam Tanner who ran 1:45.94, both PBs!
Hardly Monaco conditions either, looks pretty windy! Very impressive
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Iwaswatching2 wrote:
GreatDane1 wrote:
Incredible run by Ruthe, pipping Sam Tanner who ran 1:45.94, both PBs!
Hardly Monaco conditions either, looks pretty windy! Very impressive
I would love to see Ruthe go up against Cooper Lutkenhaus over 800m in a Diamond League or similar.
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GreatDane1 wrote:
Iwaswatching2 wrote:
Hardly Monaco conditions either, looks pretty windy! Very impressive
I would love to see Ruthe go up against Cooper Lutkenhaus over 800m in a Diamond League or similar.
So he can lose by 1.5+ seconds, assuming Cooper has a decent day and Sam has a great one?
Ruthe is an incredible talent, one of the most exciting young milers we have seen in recent years, maybe the most exciting since Jakob.
The hype around this race before it happened, the excitement at the idea that he *might* go sub 1:46, really puts in perspective how impressive Coopers run at USAs was last year. I know this gets said every time a young phenom blesses the track with an unbelievable performance, but 1:42.2 as a 16 year old might actually be something we never see again.
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He is a miler wrote:
GreatDane1 wrote:
I would love to see Ruthe go up against Cooper Lutkenhaus over 800m in a Diamond League or similar.
So he can lose by 1.5+ seconds, assuming Cooper has a decent day and Sam has a great one?
Ruthe is an incredible talent, one of the most exciting young milers we have seen in recent years, maybe the most exciting since Jakob.
The hype around this race before it happened, the excitement at the idea that he *might* go sub 1:46, really puts in perspective how impressive Coopers run at USAs was last year. I know this gets said every time a young phenom blesses the track with an unbelievable performance, but 1:42.2 as a 16 year old might actually be something we never see again.
Uumm no. The race that Cooper ran his 1:42 had 8 guys run sub 1:45 and it was in perfect conditions. Ruthe just ran 1:45 with only Tanner to compete against and the conditions were nowhere near ideal. If Ruthe was put in a Diamond League race 6 months or so from now with a stellar lineup and similar perfect conditions I believe he too could run something extraordinary.
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Race video from Sam Ruthe's dad.
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Excellent run by Ruthe. What kind of 400 is he capable of?
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1:45, 3:38, 13:40 in December/January from a 16 year old.
Ruthe is getting into "Vipam makes a thread to try to claim credit in 5 years when he breaks a load of world records" territory.
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why does Tanner think leading down the back straight is a good tactic ... it's not !!!! little and nippy .... wait , wait, wait and wait some more ... if he had run it correctly he should have knocked Farrell and willis further down the NZ all time list .
Great run by Ruthe but lets not forget Tanner smoked Willis over 800 metre as an 18 year old a year after Willis had medalled in Rio.
Lets hope history doesn't repeat itself !!!
Kirkwood is a great talent spotter but .....
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GreatDane1 wrote:
Incredible run by Ruthe, pipping Sam Tanner who ran 1:45.94, both PBs!
Only .7 behind Snell's Olympic victory at Tokyo. And only 16. Wonders will never cease.
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Mosely shoal wrote:
1:45, 3:38, 13:40 in December/January from a 16 year old.
Ruthe is getting into "Vipam makes a thread to try to claim credit in 5 years when he breaks a load of world records" territory.
Does the December/January thing factor when it’s summer in NZ? Kids a beast, either way.
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THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Mosely shoal wrote:
1:45, 3:38, 13:40 in December/January from a 16 year old.
Ruthe is getting into "Vipam makes a thread to try to claim credit in 5 years when he breaks a load of world records" territory.
Does the December/January thing factor when it’s summer in NZ? Kids a beast, either way.
Didn't mean to imply "out of season", just meant "in the last six weeks". Having an incredible time.
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He is a miler wrote:
GreatDane1 wrote:
I would love to see Ruthe go up against Cooper Lutkenhaus over 800m in a Diamond League or similar.
So he can lose by 1.5+ seconds, assuming Cooper has a decent day and Sam has a great one?
Ruthe is an incredible talent, one of the most exciting young milers we have seen in recent years, maybe the most exciting since Jakob.
The hype around this race before it happened, the excitement at the idea that he *might* go sub 1:46, really puts in perspective how impressive Coopers run at USAs was last year. I know this gets said every time a young phenom blesses the track with an unbelievable performance, but 1:42.2 as a 16 year old might actually be something we never see again.
Wow… 1:42.2 for Cooper. How fast do you think he will run this year and next year?
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He is a miler wrote:
GreatDane1 wrote:
I would love to see Ruthe go up against Cooper Lutkenhaus over 800m in a Diamond League or similar.
So he can lose by 1.5+ seconds, assuming Cooper has a decent day and Sam has a great one?
Ruthe is an incredible talent, one of the most exciting young milers we have seen in recent years, maybe the most exciting since Jakob.
The hype around this race before it happened, the excitement at the idea that he *might* go sub 1:46, really puts in perspective how impressive Coopers run at USAs was last year. I know this gets said every time a young phenom blesses the track with an unbelievable performance, but 1:42.2 as a 16 year old might actually be something we never see again.
That 1:42 is the only time Cooper has broken 1:45. He has only broken 1:46 twice. He is incredible, but sometimes people have trouble replicating world-beating performances. You don't know how a race between these two young men would go
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JumpsDoctor wrote:
He is a miler wrote:
So he can lose by 1.5+ seconds, assuming Cooper has a decent day and Sam has a great one?
Ruthe is an incredible talent, one of the most exciting young milers we have seen in recent years, maybe the most exciting since Jakob.
The hype around this race before it happened, the excitement at the idea that he *might* go sub 1:46, really puts in perspective how impressive Coopers run at USAs was last year. I know this gets said every time a young phenom blesses the track with an unbelievable performance, but 1:42.2 as a 16 year old might actually be something we never see again.
That 1:42 is the only time Cooper has broken 1:45. He has only broken 1:46 twice. He is incredible, but sometimes people have trouble replicating world-beating performances. You don't know how a race between these two young men would go
look at Matthew McKenna’s “progression”. He ran 1:46.8 as a U18 a couple of years ago…. Yes, sometimes hard to replicate for young runners.
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GreatDane1 wrote:
He is a miler wrote:
So he can lose by 1.5+ seconds, assuming Cooper has a decent day and Sam has a great one?
Ruthe is an incredible talent, one of the most exciting young milers we have seen in recent years, maybe the most exciting since Jakob.
The hype around this race before it happened, the excitement at the idea that he *might* go sub 1:46, really puts in perspective how impressive Coopers run at USAs was last year. I know this gets said every time a young phenom blesses the track with an unbelievable performance, but 1:42.2 as a 16 year old might actually be something we never see again.
Uumm no. The race that Cooper ran his 1:42 had 8 guys run sub 1:45 and it was in perfect conditions. Ruthe just ran 1:45 with only Tanner to compete against and the conditions were nowhere near ideal. If Ruthe was put in a Diamond League race 6 months or so from now with a stellar lineup and similar perfect conditions I believe he too could run something extraordinary.
Yeah, Cooper had a pretty perfect day to run 1:42. Biggest/peak race of the season, no expectations, he paced himself perfectly, the front of the race was so fast he had people to mow down the last 200m, and he just had a great day. No one should be surprised if he doesn’t (or does) run 1:42 again this year. He could be in the same fitness and only run 1:43 mid.
Also, this is faster than what Cooper ran indoors last year by like a second. I don’t think Ruthe will run 1:42 this year, but 1:44 low outdoors in good conditions + faster competition is definitely possible after today, and 1:43 is on the table, which would be competitive with Cooper/anyone in the world.
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GreatDane1 wrote:
Iwaswatching2 wrote:
Hardly Monaco conditions either, looks pretty windy! Very impressive
I would love to see Ruthe go up against Cooper Lutkenhaus over 800m in a Diamond League or similar.
I would love to see Lutkenhaus go up against Ruthe at 1500m or mile. That might well be a close one this year. 800m wouldn't be close but I am impressed by what Ruthe has shown here. That is substantially faster than the pre-Lutkenhaus American high school record, which is prodigious for a 16 year old miler who is the age of a hs junior, turning 17 in April.
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Reminds me of Laros.
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Maybe I'm crazy but Ruthe's form and arm swing reminds me of Jakob's. Can't wait to see how he progresses this year.
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Reknowned Form Observer wrote:
Maybe I'm crazy but Ruthe's form and arm swing reminds me of Jakob's. Can't wait to see how he progresses this year.
It’s crazy he’s already faster than Jakob at 800m
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