Japan's premier race, hakone evidence, allows 1 foreigner per team. They are the same way for many other University and pro competition. It keeps competition very competitive while making sure Japanese athletes can race and develop. Something like this could be really good for the NCAA. Why isn't there a foreigner cap for teams in d1? Not saying eliminate them completely or not let these people have opportunities.
Why doesen't NCAA have foreigner rules like Japan?
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maybe not even 1 per team. 2 could work quite well too. Anything but straight through bought roster
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naca1d wrote:
It keeps competition very competitive while making sure Japanese athletes can race and develop.
How’s that worked out for them?
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way more sub 2:10 marathoners than us or any other country of non africans
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freekiprop wrote:
naca1d wrote:
It keeps competition very competitive while making sure Japanese athletes can race and develop.
How’s that worked out for them?
ZERO doping violations too.
Several runners that have and are capable of beating mantz. They are just a little bit behind in some areas
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naca1d wrote:
Japan's premier race, hakone evidence, allows 1 foreigner per team. They are the same way for many other University and pro competition. It keeps competition very competitive while making sure Japanese athletes can race and develop. Something like this could be really good for the NCAA. Why isn't there a foreigner cap for teams in d1? Not saying eliminate them completely or not let these people have opportunities.
Whenever the NCAA has tried to restrict foreign athletes they've lost court challenges. And it doesn’t seem as if coaches from other sports have much interest in such restrictions.
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naca1d wrote:
way more sub 2:10 marathoners than us or any other country of non africans
How many sub 3:30 runners?
How many sub 13:00 runners?
Hiw many sub 27:00 runners?
how many championship medals on the track in the past 30 years?
heck what is the US versus Japans marathon medal count in the past 30 years?
If the goal is to develop 2:10 guys, the US system sucks. If the goal is to win medals, Japan is a total failure…
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naca1d wrote:
way more sub 2:10 marathoners than us or any other country of non africans
And medals in the last couple of decades?
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naca1d wrote:
way more sub 2:10 marathoners than us or any other country of non africans
And their best accomplishment at their best distance in the last 25 years is a businessman winning a world major in a hurricane
And the other distances that the NCAA’s runners typically excel at? Not a single person even close to relevance
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naca1d wrote:
way more sub 2:10 marathoners than us or any other country of non africans
That's because most of our top runners are still truly competitive on the track in 5000/10000, and then a smaller number of top people try the marathon. Japan has only had 7 total medals this century in olympics or world championships for 5k/10k/marathon. All of them in the marathon, 6 were women's marathon only 1 men's marathon. The US has won more olympic medals than that, and then takes the lead by a lot when adding up world championship medals. The US has waaaaaaay more fast 10,000m and 5,000m runners. Japan can have all their 2:08/2:09 guys who can't break 2:10 anywhere outside Japanese soil.
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Interestingly, Japanese professional baseball only allows 4 non-Japanese players on each team…
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US won 26 medals at Tokyo worlds, 16 gold. Japan won 2 bronze.
It's funny about how people here go on and on about how we need to fix track and field in this country when we're completely dominant in it.
("Oh, but distance is what matters!" the letsrunners cry! We won medals in the men's 10k, 5k, steeple, and 1500(2) at the last Olympics.)
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freekiprop wrote:
naca1d wrote:
It keeps competition very competitive while making sure Japanese athletes can race and develop.
How’s that worked out for them?
very well in marathons as someone said since that is their focus it seems
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freekiprop wrote:
And their best accomplishment at their best distance in the last 25 years is a businessman winning a world major in a hurricane
Naoko Takahashi, marathon gold and OR 2000 Sydney (3 in top 15)
Mizuki Noguchi, marathon gold 2004 Athens (3 in top 7)
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freekiprop wrote:
And their best accomplishment at their best distance in the last 25 years is a businessman winning a world major in a hurricane
And the other distances that the NCAA’s runners typically excel at? Not a single person even close to relevance
So 7th & 8th place in the last two Olympics and 6th and 8th place in the last two World Championships is "not even close to relevance"?
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Calendar User wrote:
freekiprop wrote:
And their best accomplishment at their best distance in the last 25 years is a businessman winning a world major in a hurricane
Naoko Takahashi, marathon gold and OR 2000 Sydney (3 in top 15)
Mizuki Noguchi, marathon gold 2004 Athens (3 in top 7)
The post I was responding to was talking about japanese men, but switch 25 to 20 and it will apply to the women too, depending on how the world champs marathon is viewed
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Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
freekiprop wrote:
And their best accomplishment at their best distance in the last 25 years is a businessman winning a world major in a hurricane
And the other distances that the NCAA’s runners typically excel at? Not a single person even close to relevance
So 7th & 8th place in the last two Olympics and 6th and 8th place in the last two World Championships is "not even close to relevance"?
Sure I guess one guy is decently relevant in the least competitive distance race on the track by far. Hang the banner
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Realistically, its because if we did, we'd be called racist. Every other nation is allowed to enforce things like borders, laws, and national identity. If the US does it, we're called (insert foreign group here)-phobic.
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Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
So 7th & 8th place in the last two Olympics and 6th and 8th place in the last two World Championships is "not even close to relevance"?
I think most people here would barely prefer watching steeple to WNBA. It's the track event for people neither fast nor strong enough for the 1500 or 5000.
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steeple is weak wrote:
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
So 7th & 8th place in the last two Olympics and 6th and 8th place in the last two World Championships is "not even close to relevance"?
I think most people here would barely prefer watching steeple to WNBA. It's the track event for people neither fast nor strong enough for the 1500 or 5000.
WNBA is WAY more popular
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