Eliud Kipchoge has called out Ruth Chepngetich after the women's marathon world record holder was suspended after masking agents were found in her sample.
Such news really hurts the credibility of athletics. Athletes like Kipchoge dedicate their lives to clean performance, so seeing others cheat damages the entire sport’s image.
Two things. First, Kipchoge was asked about Chepng'etich in an interveiw, and said this:
"It's a shame actually for people to break the rule in sport."
So he did call her out, but saying he "slammed" or "blasted" her makes it sound like he posted a rant to Instagram or something. What really happened is he said some antidoping boilerplate when asked directly in an interview.
Second, there's little I hate more about these doping threads than endless speculation and assumptions that athletes are dirty. We know Chepng'etich is a doper because she tested positive. Kipchoge, on the other hand, has never tested positive, has never had a whereabouts violation, has never had a "Jama Aden" incident or a receipt for EPO. And he's done all this during a 20-year career with biological passport, tons of in-competition tests all over the world, plus (too few, adimttedly) out-of-competition tests. His coach, Patrick Sang, has had some athletes test positive, but doesn't have a reputation as a "doping coach". And it's worth pointing out that Sang's other megastar athlete, Faith Kipyegon, has a lot in common with Kipchoge: years of consistent top performances without any sketchy stories or positive tests.
Now could Kipchoge still be doping? Of course he could be! It's not news to any of us that the doping system is imperfect, and Kenya in particular has had a lot of positive tests. But ask yourself this: is there any way to be a) Kenyan and b) a (former) world record holder and be LESS suspicious than Kipchoge? If not, then what are we even doing here?
Here's the basic compromise that most of us fans make (but not Coevett or ArmstrongLives). Support clean sport, more comprehensive testing, harsher bans, etc. If someone tests positive, treat their inevitable excuses very, very skeptically. Furthermore, there are certain activities that make us suspicious even without a positive test, like working with a coach who everyone knows dopes their athletes.
And for other athletes, those who don't test positive, don't run from the testers, and pass test after test over many years, we agree to suspend disbelief until something changes. This doesn't mean we'd be blindsided if it turns out the Kipchoge has been doping. It only means that until there is some direct evidence, we're willing to extend the benefit of the doubt. It's a compromise, but a necessary one, and better than pretending we know something we don't. Frankly, I don't see how anyone could be a fan of this or another sport any other way.
Two things. First, Kipchoge was asked about Chepng'etich in an interveiw, and said this:
"It's a shame actually for people to break the rule in sport."
So he did call her out, but saying he "slammed" or "blasted" her makes it sound like he posted a rant to Instagram or something. What really happened is he said some antidoping boilerplate when asked directly in an interview.
Second, there's little I hate more about these doping threads than endless speculation and assumptions that athletes are dirty. We know Chepng'etich is a doper because she tested positive. Kipchoge, on the other hand, has never tested positive, has never had a whereabouts violation, has never had a "Jama Aden" incident or a receipt for EPO. And he's done all this during a 20-year career with biological passport, tons of in-competition tests all over the world, plus (too few, adimttedly) out-of-competition tests. His coach, Patrick Sang, has had some athletes test positive, but doesn't have a reputation as a "doping coach". And it's worth pointing out that Sang's other megastar athlete, Faith Kipyegon, has a lot in common with Kipchoge: years of consistent top performances without any sketchy stories or positive tests.
Now could Kipchoge still be doping? Of course he could be! It's not news to any of us that the doping system is imperfect, and Kenya in particular has had a lot of positive tests. But ask yourself this: is there any way to be a) Kenyan and b) a (former) world record holder and be LESS suspicious than Kipchoge? If not, then what are we even doing here?
Here's the basic compromise that most of us fans make (but not Coevett or ArmstrongLives). Support clean sport, more comprehensive testing, harsher bans, etc. If someone tests positive, treat their inevitable excuses very, very skeptically. Furthermore, there are certain activities that make us suspicious even without a positive test, like working with a coach who everyone knows dopes their athletes.
And for other athletes, those who don't test positive, don't run from the testers, and pass test after test over many years, we agree to suspend disbelief until something changes. This doesn't mean we'd be blindsided if it turns out the Kipchoge has been doping. It only means that until there is some direct evidence, we're willing to extend the benefit of the doubt. It's a compromise, but a necessary one, and better than pretending we know something we don't. Frankly, I don't see how anyone could be a fan of this or another sport any other way.
Every pro athlete dopes. Only dumb ones get caught.
Such news really hurts the credibility of athletics. Athletes like Kipchoge dedicate their lives to clean performance, so seeing others cheat damages the entire sport’s image.
She was surely following his advice that no human is limited but then when you do hit your limit, you got to try to push it somehow or the other, no?
This thread and the article is bogus. He did not slam anyone. He was asked a question and he said "Its a shame ............"
Classic clickbait
I feel like the phrase “it’s a shame” is often used to imply some shame as in disgrace, not just its by-the-book meaning of the situation just being unfortunate. The ambiguity and the sting of the word “shame” helps.
He also followed it up by saying some people don’t play by the rules, so it was pretty clearly a slam. There isn’t no way he can’t slam a busted runner.
Now could Kipchoge still be doping? Of course he could be! It's not news to any of us that the doping system is imperfect, and Kenya in particular has had a lot of positive tests. But ask yourself this: is there any way to be a) Kenyan and b) a (former) world record holder and be LESS suspicious than Kipchoge? If not, then what are we even doing here?
Answer for less suspicious: be from a group without doping busts.
That aside, I am sure no one can set a WR without doping. That ship has sailed decades ago; the sport is too dirty, the drugs too many, too various, too effective for many different aspects (endurance, sprinting ability, recovery, you name it). One would have to be several percent better than the most talented, most hard/smart working athletes. Basically impossible in a popular sport.
Kipchoge's development seems more realistic then Kevin Kiptum but we will never know with Kiptum.
Kipchoge has competed for like 20+ years at this point (5K gold in 2003 Worlds), I imagine something would of come out at this point. Honestly Conner Mantz, who I fully believe is clean, running a 2:04 makes me think it is possible to run a 2:01 clean.
Kipchoge's development seems more realistic then Kevin Kiptum but we will never know with Kiptum.
Kipchoge has competed for like 20+ years at this point (5K gold in 2003 Worlds), I imagine something would of come out at this point. Honestly Conner Mantz, who I fully believe is clean, running a 2:04 makes me think it is possible to run a 2:01 clean.
Kiptum and all Kipchoge are dopers. Ruth just got caught and they didn't. They got lucky.
I think saying Kipchoge "slammed" Chepng’etich might be a stretch. He gave a measured response in an interview, simply expressing disappointment over a doping violation. That said, it's clear the athletics community needs more transparency and accountability. Even subtle comments from someone like Kipchoge can carry a lot of weight
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Now could Kipchoge still be doping? Of course he could be! It's not news to any of us that the doping system is imperfect, and Kenya in particular has had a lot of positive tests. But ask yourself this: is there any way to be a) Kenyan and b) a (former) world record holder and be LESS suspicious than Kipchoge? If not, then what are we even doing here?
Answer for less suspicious: be from a group without doping busts.
That aside, I am sure no one can set a WR without doping. That ship has sailed decades ago; the sport is too dirty, the drugs too many, too various, too effective for many different aspects (endurance, sprinting ability, recovery, you name it). One would have to be several percent better than the most talented, most hard/smart working athletes. Basically impossible in a popular sport.
Only 5 clean WR athletes. Bekele, Geb, Cheptegei, Kiplimo, Hisham El Guerrouj. Talent must be rare. You can't have too many talents in distance as that means it's not rare and not talented.
Fisher couldn't be rare nor talented. Hocker too. Talent must occur once in 10-15 years minimum. After Cheptegei in 2024 that means 2036 for the next Bekele. Fisher does not fulfil the statistical criteria for 5/10k talent. He is in year 2025, not 2036. He cannot be running 26:33 in 2021 cleanly. Nor win bronze and set WRs freely and rapidly falling back to earth to also ran in tokyo this past month.