NCAA Coaches who develop American athletes

Not Will Palmer and Dave Smith. Two rats who are bad for the sport

Add NAU and BYU. Two programs who have resisted importing an all African pro roster but rather recruited American high school kids developed them and in many cases now represent the USA.

Laurie Henes has done well with some at NC State

BYU wont count as the Mormons are a very exclusive group. Thumb up for NAU.

Grand valley

Not Sudbury from Iowa Stare either. Embarrassing,

Current rosters:

NAU - W: 2 Australia, 1 Switzerland, M: 1 Israel

NC State - W: 1 Canada, 1 Spain, 1 New Zealand, 1 France, M: 1 South Africa

BYU - W: 0, M: 0

Adams State, under coach Damon Martin, has obviously had some fantastic foreign athletes over the years. He still develops those athletes. Romain Legendre came as a 13:35 guy, which is obviously fast. But 13:35 down to 13:02 in two years is far, far from a slow and/or expected progression. Many coaches couldn’t get that right. That aside, I’ll stick to the premise of developing American kids.

Some have mistakenly overstated Adams State’s reliance on foreign talent. Have there been years that foreign talent pulled most of the weight? Of course. But Martin has developed many American kids at Adams from middling HS runners to certified heavy hitters.

Also, just because a kid isn’t named John Smith or Charlie Stevens it doesn’t mean he’s not American. Names and skin colors don’t determine citizenship. I don’t think most people would do this, but I think some have assumed certain Adams State runners are foreign over the years for this (bad) reason. Not hard to look someone up on world athletics to see their citizenship.

Some might not know that Sydney Gidabuday (7:54/13:29 in college pre- super spike) was born in and grew up in California and is an American citizen.

Awet Beraki (13:36/28:12) was born in Eritrea. He was once held hostage for ransom for a matter of months, you can read more on this online. He moved to America as a preteen or young teen and is an American citizen. Ran 14:38/30:05 before coming to Adams State after a brief stint at Stephen F Austin and a year at a juco.

Kidus Begashaw (7:53/13:40) has Ethiopian parents but grew up in Aurora, CO. American citizen. Ran 4:34/9:48 in HS. Has remaining eligibility.

Juan Rosales, from California, 14:56/31:30 during his two years at a juco, now 13:49 and a 30:08 10k at 4500ft. Has remaining eligibility.

Julian Campos, from Washington, 14:29 during his two years at a juco, now 7:58/13:56. Has remaining eligibility.

Max Aldrich, 14:15 during his two years at a DIII, now 13:59. Has remaining eligibility.

Dayton Brown, from Michigan. 13:58/29:32 at Saginaw Valley (DII), ran 13:32/28:08 at Adams.

David Cardenas, from Colorado, ran 1:53/4:16 in HS then 1:47.5 and a 4:01 mile at Adams.

Miguel Coca, from New Mexico, ran 1:56/4:24 in HS then 3:56.38 mile, 7:44, and 13:36 at Adams.

Those are all very recent history, you can also look into Tabor Stevens, Jovanny Godinez, Ryan McNiff, Dan Maas, Aaron Braun, Aucencio Martinez, Mario Macias, Jason Hubbard, Brian Medigovich, Matt Daniels, Elias Geydon, Carson Bix, and many more. I don’t believe I mentioned anyone who was coached by Vigil, that’s all Martin. Vigil had some super studs in the likes of Pat Porter, Rick Robirds and others. Those two guys both ran slower than 10:00 in the two mile in HS.

All of this is without even considering the women’s side.

Martin and Adams state have been developing kids well, both Americans and foreigners, for years.

Rod Dehaven has done well as South Dakota State

2 runners earned 3 all American spots in xc from 2013-2016 and a 3rd runner was 44th at nats last year. Typically finish top 10 in the region and a best of 5th place I believe. Could a 4th runner who ran a 13:34 5k last spring . I'm sure there are other D1 mid-major school who have similar results as well

Which side are you defending? Also can you add Sean Brosnan's progression on there?

Furman men had two foreigners in their top five today at the Gans Creek Classic.

Furman women had a foreigner women as their 8th runner today also at the Gans Creek Classic.

Brien Bell. Syracuse men make nationals every year with a 90% american roster

You can guarantee any of the service academies are competing with home grown talent, with the added stipulation of no transfers. Though Air Force is head and shoulders above the others. Shoutout Ryan Cole

Not entirely true. You can transfer into the service academies but you must (1) get a Congressional nomination like everybody else, (2) be fully qualified academically and physically, and (3) be unmarried with no child dependents. You will enter as a plebe and be there for four years, regardless of how many years of college you already have completed. I think the age limit to start is 22, so someone could theoretically get their college degree at a civilian college and then go to the Academy for a second bachelor's.

I don't think there's anything wrong with a few foreigners on a roster. Its when coaches are exclusively filling out their top 7 with Kenyans and the few Americans on the roster are on the B-team, that there is a problem

Surprised Chris Miltenberg hasn't been mentioned. Currently only has a single girl from Sweden as his one foreigner at UNC. Honestly can't recall any standout foreigners during his time at Stanford or currently UNC, but plenty of home-grown talent he has developed into premier runners.

I feel the same way about Post Collegiate (Pro) training groups. Especially when I watch the WC and want to cheer for someone that is wearing the US kit.

In order to keep from negatively calling out certain training groups. I just want to give mad respect to Hansons, Minnesota, and Zap (for the remainder of the year). They never sold out.

they also have Tomer Tarragano from the UK on their men's team and a guy from New Zealand committed for next year.

John Smith The Recently Retired Oklahoma State Wrestling Coach (Retired a Year or 2 Ago.) He Took high School Kids and Developed Them Into NCAA and Conference Champions And all Americans And Just about All of Them Were American Born and Raised