It was only a Friday night schoolboy meet, and it was hand-timed therefore not official, but the Australian teen phenomenon stopped the clock at 9.94 seconds.
No its not. 0.24 is a colloquial add-on that is only used within certain track and field circles.There is nothing scientific nor mathematical about it. It's good ole boy math. The rules of math and measurement are taught at almost every public high school in the country. You live in Baltimore but you certainly didn't go to school there.
Additionally its impossible to hand time down to the hundredth of a second anyway.
Not to give you grief Rojo, but you went to two of the best high schools, and universities, in the world. Be proud of that. There are 10s of thousands of deserving Asian kids who will never have that opportunity due to your alma mater's racist admission policies.
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the conversion is round UP to the nearest 10th, and then add .24
since his time is listed as 9.94, the stopwatch most likely read 9.6x. round up to 9.7. add .24.
VOILA. 9.94
Your math would be acceptable at a bass fishing tournament or a monster truck pull, but would be laughed at a precision sport like NASCAR.
As a high school xc coach presumably you are an educator right? Don't lead young minds astray. OK?
LOL MALMO. Ive coached hundreds of meets. probably as many that are hand timed as electronically timed. this is standard operating procedure. still in 2025.
what's good, is that for the most part, it's a formula only used at dual meets, to get seed times for early season invites. because no way are you going to just put a straight hand time in for seeding purposes versus other kids who already have FAT times to put in.
Our post season comp has finally mandated that sprint seed times, 200 meters and under, must come from events with FAT (fully automatic timing).
Your math would be acceptable at a bass fishing tournament or a monster truck pull, but would be laughed at a precision sport like NASCAR.
As a high school xc coach presumably you are an educator right? Don't lead young minds astray. OK?
LOL MALMO. Ive coached hundreds of meets. probably as many that are hand timed as electronically timed. this is standard operating procedure. still in 2025.
what's good, is that for the most part, it's a formula only used at dual meets, to get seed times for early season invites. because no way are you going to just put a straight hand time in for seeding purposes versus other kids who already have FAT times to put in.
Our post season comp has finally mandated that sprint seed times, 200 meters and under, must come from events with FAT (fully automatic timing).
"Standard Operating Procedure" isn't math or science. Its made up. Thats my point.
My school has an old sprint-8 timer with a sound sensor that starts the timer via a wired connection. In case it fails, someone also manually starts the device, which results in their reaction time being recorded as a Lane 1 time. The best I've seen in the last decade was a 20 year old who was usually pretty close to 0.30, while most middle-aged people were more like 0.45 - 0.60.
I was at a small-town meet last year and video recorded a couple races while they were completely hand-timing, and the timers were usually about 1 second too fast.
If I have a good reaction time (for me), I can usually get within a tenth of the FAT by stopping my watch when the runner's trailing foot crosses the finish line, and this is my method for hand timing.
The short answer is, you have no idea what a hand time would have been if it was FAT.
No its not. 0.24 is a colloquial add-on that is only used within certain track and field circles.There is nothing scientific nor mathematical about it. It's good ole boy math. The rules of math and measurement are taught at almost every public high school in the country. You live in Baltimore but you certainly didn't go to school there.
Additionally its impossible to hand time down to the hundredth of a second anyway.
Not to give you grief Rojo, but you went to two of the best high schools, and universities, in the world. Be proud of that. There are 10s of thousands of deserving Asian kids who will never have that opportunity due to your alma mater's racist admission policies.
But aren’t you a bit off topic in discussing where Rojo went to school? It is not relevant in this thread, except insofar as you want to denigrate his math skills. This is not really that serious of an issue where math is terribly important. Nobody is crediting Gout with a FAT anyway.
No its not. 0.24 is a colloquial add-on that is only used within certain track and field circles.There is nothing scientific nor mathematical about it. It's good ole boy math. The rules of math and measurement are taught at almost every public high school in the country. You live in Baltimore but you certainly didn't go to school there.
Additionally its impossible to hand time down to the hundredth of a second anyway.
Not to give you grief Rojo, but you went to two of the best high schools, and universities, in the world. Be proud of that. There are 10s of thousands of deserving Asian kids who will never have that opportunity due to your alma mater's racist admission policies.
But aren’t you a bit off topic in discussing where Rojo went to school? It is not relevant in this thread, except insofar as you want to denigrate his math skills. This is not really that serious of an issue where math is terribly important. Nobody is crediting Gout with a FAT anyway.
I didn't go off topic. I went right to the essence of this "conversion" nonsense. Rojo should know better, and he probably does. But rojo loves starting provocative threads. I don't know if rojo has Irish blood in him but he acts it. There's no filter between the Irish mind and the Irish tongue. Auto vs hand time? 1500s to mile? HM to marathon? Altitude to sea-level? There is nothing objective about those things.
Word. There is nothing on LRC that is serious. We can agree on that.
As for timing people can be all over the place. Was there one watch or several, for first there should always be several? 9.94+0.24=10.18. The problem is that when you have a number of timings the ones you are lowest on (that is, showing a fast time) are the ones of most interest ex post because they look "good". That does apply here because Gout was clearly going to be the star.
When I first started officiating I was doing timing. We were all assigned a place to time. We also had electronic timing. I would check my time with the automatic timing and almost all the time I was plus or minus 0.03 seconds except for when I knew that something went wrong, like a glitch. Other timers had greater variance and more bias (too fast, so responded with more lag on the start than on the finish where you can and should anticipate. After two years I stopped doing it because the auto system nevered failed. Went to the high jump and then was thrown into the deep end with the pole vault.
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No its not. 0.24 is a colloquial add-on that is only used within certain track and field circles.There is nothing scientific nor mathematical about it. It's good ole boy math. The rules of math and measurement are taught at almost every public high school in the country. You live in Baltimore but you certainly didn't go to school there.
Additionally its impossible to hand time down to the hundredth of a second anyway.
Not to give you grief Rojo, but you went to two of the best high schools, and universities, in the world. Be proud of that. There are 10s of thousands of deserving Asian kids who will never have that opportunity due to your alma mater's racist admission policies.
Didn’t mention the thousands of deserving white kids turned away because mom and dad can’t afford to grease the skids for admission - and being pale excludes them from most scholarships. But that doesn’t have the same virtue-signaling power, does it?
ive also hand timed several races that are auto timed, and usually fall within the realm of .3 off. and most hand timers around me are similar.
but there are some very, very bad ones.
back in the day, at more important meets, we would use 3 hand times for each lane, and use the middle time for results. of course with the typical formula then used to add on. and the three were usually pretty close.
but nobody is taking a time that appears an outliar very seriously when taken by hand.
I didn't go off topic. I went right to the essence of this "conversion" nonsense. Rojo should know better, and he probably does. But rojo loves starting provocative threads. I don't know if rojo has Irish blood in him but he acts it. There's no filter between the Irish mind and the Irish tongue. Auto vs hand time? 1500s to mile? HM to marathon? Altitude to sea-level? There is nothing objective about those things.
Word. There is nothing on LRC that is serious. We can agree on that.
How was this thread provocative? You’re the one that took a shot at Baltimore teachers and called Ivy League schools racist out of nowhere. Look inward brother
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