The World Athletics Council has approved new regulations concerning eligibility conditions to compete in the female category for world ranking competitions
This should really be more involved and the SRY test be a screen with additional medical evaluation to make a determination/diagnosis. It would be a slower process but more accurate.
This should really be more involved and the SRY test be a screen with additional medical evaluation
Maybe. Just maybe. But meanwhile suspend intersex athletes from competition until an "additional medical evaluation" is done. By whom? The family physician? And please don't start with "the evidence is inconclusive on any athletic advantages that might accrue to an intersex person..." And least of all, don't go by "the sex that was assigned at birth," because as Caster S and others have shown, many doctors simply do not recognize an intersex condition. And many children are still born without a doctor present.
This should really be more involved and the SRY test be a screen with additional medical evaluation to make a determination/diagnosis. It would be a slower process but more accurate.
The reason that World Athletics is doing this is to once and for all get rid of all athletes from female races who don't fit most people's definition of what a "female" is.
In reality, the new maximum testosterone levels of 2.5 already means that all Caster Semenya type DSD runners, and well as people born male but who switched to female, will be too slow to compete at a world class level against the top biological females.
Good good, but when it says the testing will be done by 'member federations', that means by the national bodies, yeah? That would still introduce the risk of cover-ups within national teams, wouldn't it? Are World Athletics reserving the right to do their own independent testing like World Boxing are?
I wish they would go to these lengths to stop Kenyan doping.
As somebody else said here recently, Kenyan cheating is ruining both men's and women's athletics even more than these 'intersex athletes'.
I mean really, we're talking a handful of such runners, compared to hundreds of Kenyan dopers. One dominant intersex runner (Caster) in one event, compared to dozens of Kenyan Olympic and world champions, world record holders, junior champions, Diamond League winners, and that's just on the track.
This should really be more involved and the SRY test be a screen with additional medical evaluation
Maybe. Just maybe. But meanwhile suspend intersex athletes from competition until an "additional medical evaluation" is done. By whom? The family physician? And please don't start with "the evidence is inconclusive on any athletic advantages that might accrue to an intersex person..." And least of all, don't go by "the sex that was assigned at birth," because as Caster S and others have shown, many doctors simply do not recognize an intersex condition. And many children are still born without a doctor present.
RunRagged can you help here?
A process should be in place once the initial screening is done, but excellent straw man.
I wish they would go to these lengths to stop Kenyan doping.
As somebody else said here recently, Kenyan cheating is ruining both men's and women's athletics even more than these 'intersex athletes'.
I mean really, we're talking a handful of such runners, compared to hundreds of Kenyan dopers. One dominant intersex runner (Caster) in one event, compared to dozens of Kenyan Olympic and world champions, world record holders, junior champions, Diamond League winners, and that's just on the track.
One is far simpler and they do not need to be mutually exclusive.
This should really be more involved and the SRY test be a screen with additional medical evaluation
Maybe. Just maybe. But meanwhile suspend intersex athletes from competition until an "additional medical evaluation" is done. By whom? The family physician? And please don't start with "the evidence is inconclusive on any athletic advantages that might accrue to an intersex person..." And least of all, don't go by "the sex that was assigned at birth," because as Caster S and others have shown, many doctors simply do not recognize an intersex condition. And many children are still born without a doctor present.
RunRagged can you help here?
What exactly is your complaint? Do you think that some non-females might slip through this testing?
Genetics professor here. SRY is exactly the right DNA test to identify maleness. If you test positive for SRY this should identify DSD individuals who have internal testes and external female reproductive organs, as well as males who transitioned to female. Problem solved.
My question is this: IAAF has been doing testosterone testing for a few years. Stating "if you are at or above "-" level, you are a male. Seems simple and backed by science. Why can't we here in America do that?
Genetics professor here. SRY is exactly the right DNA test to identify maleness. If you test positive for SRY this should identify DSD individuals who have internal testes and external female reproductive organs, as well as males who transitioned to female. Problem solved.
Problem solved only if the member federations don't fudge the results: "The testing protocol will be overseen by Member Federations as they prepare their athletes and teams for the Championships in Tokyo."
Because there's no chance a member federation would cover for an athlete with a "problem," right?
Genetics professor here. SRY is exactly the right DNA test to identify maleness. If you test positive for SRY this should identify DSD individuals who have internal testes and external female reproductive organs, as well as males who transitioned to female. Problem solved.
I wonder what will happen if an athlete with complete androgen insensitivity syndrome (CAIS) 46,XY with testosterone levels in the normal to high male range, BUT their cells are 100% unable to respond to testosterone due to the androgen receptor gene mutation, challenges WA's ruling? After all, they have female external genitalia, internal testes, BUT no cells respond to the androgens produced.
Genetics professor here. SRY is exactly the right DNA test to identify maleness. If you test positive for SRY this should identify DSD individuals who have internal testes and external female reproductive organs, as well as males who transitioned to female. Problem solved.
I wonder what will happen if an athlete with complete androgen insensitivity syndrome (CAIS) 46,XY with testosterone levels in the normal to high male range, BUT their cells are 100% unable to respond to testosterone due to the androgen receptor gene mutation, challenges WA's ruling? After all, they have female external genitalia, internal testes, BUT no cells respond to the androgens produced.
they should be eligible
c. Biological males who have Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome and therefore have not gone through male sexual development including any type of male puberty.
So in theory we can still have biological males competing…
